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    Didn't Yoshi release a while ago the information that we would be getting 2 jobs, 1 tank and 1 healer in expansion? If that's the case then DRK-tank and GUN-heal would have to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    Didn't Yoshi release a while ago the information that we would be getting 2 jobs, 1 tank and 1 healer in expansion? If that's the case then DRK-tank and GUN-heal would have to be the case.
    Link to information?
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    Felisin Dawnthief
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    Didn't Yoshi release a while ago the information that we would be getting 2 jobs, 1 tank and 1 healer in expansion? If that's the case then DRK-tank and GUN-heal would have to be the case.
    He said we will get new tank and healer in expansion packs. He didn't explicitly say that was going to be the only jobs we'll get in the expansion pack. Big difference.
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    You know...I can guarantee Captain Madison isn't healing you when he unleashes his barrage.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellisin View Post
    A) Because the Dark Knight T-Shirt was hinting at the film title which turned out to be the job. The London Fan Fest T-shirt was the logo for the film "The Man with the golden gun" but that seems to be ignored by going with just for the literal 007 reference instead.

    B)No because batman doesn't really lead to Dark Knight without at actual reference of a particular era with in the batman franchise. Bat man clue could easily lead to Cape Crusader. Not really going get Dark Knight from that. Hell I'm pretty sure somewhere in batman franchise there is a samurai batman.
    You're REALLY stretching there. Batman himself IS the dark knight. That film is just many in which the Dark Knight appears. Batman himself is the reference. Not that specific movie. Come on man. If I went up to someone's and asked them "Who's the Dark Knight" you aren't going to get an answer like "well that depends. Are we talking the 1940's or the 1990's? Cause we might have different answers." No, they'll just say batman because he's colloquially known as the Dark Knight. You're really pushing past the point of reasonable here just to try and prove me wrong on some technicality that almost no one would possibly know?. Aren't you taking things a bit too far and extremely literally when we are in the context of hints that have loose connections to begin with?
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 11-01-2014 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    You're REALLY stretching there. Batman himself IS the dark knight. That film is just many in which the Dark Knight appears. Batman himself is the reference. Not that specific movie. Come on man. If I went up to someone's and asked them "Who's the Dark Knight" you aren't going to get an answer like "well that depends. Are we talking the 1940's or the 1990's? Cause we might have different answers." No, they'll just say batman because he's colloquially known as the Dark Knight. You're really pushing past the point of reasonable here just to try and prove me wrong. Aren't you taking things a bit too far and extremely literally when we are in the context of hints?
    Kettle, pot, black springs to mind on your stretching point now.

    Yoshi P specifically stated he like the Christopher Nolan batman (coupled with the T-shirt) to get to the Dark Knight. Just like he specifically stated a particular james bond film, which gets ignored and people focus on James bond aspect of the clue instead. Leading to the speculation of agent.

    We must be of different era's because I certainly didn't grow up with knowing him colloquially as the Dark Knight. Since his main nickname has been for decades the Cape Crusader.
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    Last edited by Fellisin; 11-01-2014 at 01:50 AM.

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    I'm 30 and in addition to Cape Crusader I've always known him as the Dark Knight. It is in no way stretching it to see Dark Knight specifically as batman and a direct reference in and of itself.

    In a short time we will know for sure.

    *edit*
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Knight_(nickname)

    Looks like Dark Knight was in use as a title for a mini series in 1986. Meaning it existed for some time prior to that. Meaning almost my entire life at a minimum and probably longer. It has been like this for a very long time now. My connection as far as I'm concerned is legitimate. I'm too young when I'm already 30 years old is not a valid argument when talking about pop culture references.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 11-01-2014 at 01:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I'm 30 and in addition to Cape Crusader I've always known him as the Dark Knight. It is in no way stretching it to see Dark Knight specifically as batman and a direct reference in and of itself.
    In a short time we will know for sure.
    Yes we will.

    But since I'm not speculating and haven't convinced myself it's going be a particular class or type of class. I'm not potentially going to end up being disappointed.
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    I won't either since I don't intend to play it, but to ignore all the existing clues just because speculation seems foolish. The clues presented are compelling for the agent. It may not be right but as far as educated guessess the best one we've got and all the statements and the puzzle pieces fall into place quite nicely. Above I considered that movie and suggested Gun assassin. I met you mid way with a different idea based on your assume hint. So far you haven't done anything but tear me down, but what if you are reading too much into that movie reference. Is agent so unrealistic in that situation?
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 11-01-2014 at 02:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I won't either since I don't intend to play it, but to ignore all the existing clues just because speculation seems foolish. The clues presented are compelling for the agent. It may not be right but as far as educated guessess the best one we've got and all the statements and the puzzle pieces fall into place quite nicely.
    I'm not ignoring the clues. I just not convinced that they are hard and fast compelling evidence for Agent. Especially since that speculation seems to be got at by only jumping on one half of the clue & completely ignoring the second half. So as far as I'm concerned the puzzle pieces doesn't neatly fit at this point as some would like it too.

    Plus as I pointed out it's speculation and some of the clues can easily be read differently from how people got to Agent.

    So until december. I will wait and see.
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