*Spoilers Rogue* SE teasing us of the gunner class/Job XD

[RiceisNice]

Is it that everytime someone uses a gun, its a hint toward a gunner class? Just wondering because someone said the same thing after Captain Madison. in Sastasha (Heroic).

[Crankysorc]

Is it that everytime someone uses a gun, its a hint toward a gunner class? Just wondering because someone said the same thing after Captain Madison. in Sastasha (Heroic).

There's already a gunner's guild in limsa, so people are just getting excited it might finally be added whenever they see someone use one.

[Starlord]

Is it that everytime someone uses a gun, its a hint toward a gunner class? Just wondering because someone said the same thing after Captain Madison. in Sastasha (Heroic).

Well we already know a gunner class is coming ( London Fan fest) but they seems to be trying extra hard to tease us the gun class. I mean come on the lalafell took the gun raised it in the air and a bunch of sparkly stuff happened.

[Tiggy]

Well we already know a gunner class is coming ( London Fan fest) but they seems to be trying extra hard to tease us the gun class. I mean come on the lalafell took the gun raised it in the air and a bunch of sparkly stuff happened.

They've been talking about the gunner class since 1.0. The gunner guild was there in 1.0 as well. No they aren't trying extra hard to tease anything at all. The fact that a NPC uses a gun does nothing more than enforce the fact that guns exist in this world and people use them every day. Tons of NPCs use guns, and several are very high profile. Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn specifically comes to mind as a great example of how using guns is not a tease for this player class in anyway.

Every time a gun is used is not a tease at the gunner class. A REAL tease would have been us seeing a gunner using it in battle and healing with it since so far we are made to believe that the new gunner class is a healer.

Using the logic of "oh theres a gun so it must mean it's the new class" can get all out of whack very quickly. Oh look garleans using gunblades. New gunblade class confirmed and their teasing us! Just because something appears in the game doesn't make it a tease that we will get something or that it's related.

The girl above works in the military. A military that has guns. It's not a surprise.

[Starlord]

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Guns have existed since 1.0, but barely I see a time where they use it to "Show off" the class/job. However, people have different ways of seeing things, I just see it as a tease because I barely see a time where the guns where shown off. I haven't seen the rest of the Rogue storyline yet, but the way it's unfolding it's possible for it to happen as well.

Edit: The class existed since years ago is not a tease since it's been in the game for way to long without it releasing.

[Tiggy]

Guns have existed since 1.0, but barely I see a time where they use it to "Show off" the class/job. However, people have different ways of seeing things, I just see it as a tease because I barely see a time where the guns where shown off. I haven't seen the rest of the Rogue storyline yet, but the way it's unfolding it's possible for it to happen as well.

You can't ignore that the new gun class is being shipped as a healer. Just seeing a gun isn't a tease to that at all. Your criteria for a tease is quite low.

[Starlord]

You can't ignore that the new gun class is being shipped as a healer. Just seeing a gun isn't a tease to that at all. Your criteria for a tease is quite low.

By what means should I believe the gun class will be a healer? We barely know anything about the class.

And seeing a 4 year class that's not even playable yet as a tease is "quite low" to me but hey we all have different ways of seeing things.

[Tiggy]

By what means should I believe the gun class will be a healer? We barely know anything about the class.

And seeing a 4 year class that's not even playable yet as a tease is "quite low" to me but hey we all have different ways of seeing things.

At the US fanfest they made numerous references to various knights and batman as a dark knight and they even wore a batman shirt. The following week they formally announced the Dark Knight class.

At the London fan fest when Yoshi took off his Black Mage AF he was wearing a 007 shirt. Following the same line of "hints" we end up at the current target of speculation. The agent. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Agent The agent is gun weilding healer. (Obviously without the all female aspects I'm sure)

They've also in the past said they would be releasing a new tanking and healing job in the expansion. New healer class + gun class + 007 shirt hint = Agent as the current speculation. Pretty reasonably if I do say so.

[Fellisin]

You can't ignore that the new gun class is being shipped as a healer. Just seeing a gun isn't a tease to that at all. Your criteria for a tease is quite low.

Correction. Its being Speculated as a healer by the players. It could easily be a DPS and at the Fan fest in december when the gun class details are revealed they then go on and tease a third class for the healer.

At this point all we have is speculation no confirmation on any details past the use of guns.

At the US fanfest they made numerous references to various knights and batman as a dark knight and they even wore a batman shirt. The following week they formally announced the Dark Knight class.

At the London fan fest when Yoshi took off his Black Mage AF he was wearing a 007 shirt. Following the same line of "hints" we end up at the current target of speculation. The agent. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Agent The agent is gun weilding healer. (Obviously without the all female aspects I'm sure)

They've also in the past said they would be releasing a new tanking and healing job in the expansion. New healer class + gun class + 007 shirt hint = Agent as the current speculation. Pretty reasonably if I do say so.

Except the hint at London Fan Fest was that Yoshi P particularly likes the film "The man with the golden gun". SO the title is the clue not the James Bond bit. So it could easily not be Agent class at all.

Plus there no guarantee the next class being released is an actual healer class.

Once again it just speculation.

[Tiggy]

Correction. Its being Speculated as a healer by the players. It could easily be a DPS and at the Fan fest in december when the gun class details are revealed they then go on and tease a third class for the healer..

Yes, if you read further into the thread I pointed out that it was speculation.

Also, speculation is at least based on some amount of knowledge. You're assuming it could be a different class than a healer based off an event that hasn't happened yet.

Starlord. How do you reconcile the following details against your current opinion on what the gun class will be?

A) Dark Knight was strongly hinted at the week before using a shirt and then was confirmed. 007 on his shirt and gun motions are the same kind of hint. Why do you ignore the 007 aspect? Why was the t-shirt a valid hint the previous week that did indeed hint at Dark Knight and this week you can't believe it's a hint? Don't you think you're blatantly ignoring this piece of info?

B) Agent is actually a class in FF Tactics Advanced 2 and was a gun healer class. Does the 007 shirt really not lead you to this in a similar way batman lead to dark knight? If there wasn't an agent like class that would be one thing, but there is.

C) Yoshi said the gun class would be different than what we expected. Isn't a healing gun class unexpected? A DPS gunclass wouldn't exactly be considered unexpected. That would generally be what's considered expected because it's what most people want.

I'd say we have a different opinion if it actually felt like you were acknowledging certain details. Right now it feels like your ignoring the ones that are inconvenient to your position. I'd love to hear your opinion on those 3 points and how they reconcile with your current opinion and how all three as a whole reconcile. I'm not looking for a "I just agree" I'm more interested in specifics as to why.

Except the hint at London Fan Fest was that Yoshi P particularly likes the film "The man with the golden gun". SO the title is the clue not the James Bond bit. So it could easily not be Agent class at all.

If that movie is to be taken specifically serious then assassin would make the most since since the man with the golden gun was an assassin using the golden bullet to point out his targets. With the addition of Ninja a gun assassin seems kind of odly timed, and not quite unexpected. Possible I suppose but seems to be more of a stretch.