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    Well... martial arts (at least the Kung fu I took) there are optimal places to land a strike on a target to do damage. It changes based on the kind of attack. How they translate that into the game is positional requirements.

    Example, razor kick (with the side of the foot) not really something effective on thigh, targets are side/back of the knee and soft tissue.

    Throws, holds, and sparring was most effective when getting around someone's defense, approaching from the front was far from optimal because you have lots more defense that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfire8974 View Post
    Well... martial arts (at least the Kung fu I took) there are optimal places to land a strike on a target to do damage. It changes based on the kind of attack. How they translate that into the game is positional requirements.

    Example, razor kick (with the side of the foot) not really something effective on thigh, targets are side/back of the knee and soft tissue.

    Throws, holds, and sparring was most effective when getting around someone's defense, approaching from the front was far from optimal because you have lots more defense that way
    I see your point and I even thought about that, but now explain to me why I have no good attacks from the front?

    A martial artist should be able to adapt to ALL situations as fights are spontaneous. It's very weird that a so called Monk cannot attack with any kind of authority when facing a monster head on, do you not agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    I see your point and I even thought about that, but now explain to me why I have no good attacks from the front?

    A martial artist should be able to adapt to ALL situations as fights are spontaneous. It's very weird that a so called Monk cannot attack with any kind of authority when facing a monster head on, do you not agree?
    That's the reson, it is not optimal because all the monster's attention is facing the monk. The monk can still hurt the monster, but it takes more time and effort and is more risky because the monster can see and defend against every incoming blow. Damage is not negated, just certainly much harder to deal.

    Only in anime is there an undefendable attack from the front of a target
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    I see your point and I even thought about that, but now explain to me why I have no good attacks from the front?

    A martial artist should be able to adapt to ALL situations as fights are spontaneous. It's very weird that a so called Monk cannot attack with any kind of authority when facing a monster head on, do you not agree?
    1 - You are thinking a bit too much about lore and not enough about game balance. It would be to have everything check out 100% from a lore/practical application, but it just can't.

    2 - It would be weird if a MNK couldn't be effective from in front of a mob, but I have killed numerous opponents from the front with my MNK. It WOULD be weird if I weren't MORE effective from the flank or rear. MNKs are plenty potent from the front, but if you use your positionals they are absolutely deadly.

    Think about attacking someone in real life from in front of them: They can see you, they can see your movements, they can move their body slightly or dramatically to decrease the pain they feel when you hit them with your fists. Now think about attacking someone from behind: They have no way to predict where you will strike, when you will strike, how you will strike, so it will definitely be more effective, especially if you are a master of your craft.

    Now, if I had a lance or some knives, I'm less affected by positional because I have an edged weapon with more reach.
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