To Vote-Kick Abuser, I will fight you!!!

[LionKing]

That GM reply is just open opportunities for Vote-kick abusers have even more reason to abuse such system, simple because they won't get punish for it such action....Good grief!!!

[ziddyt]

That GM reply is just open opportunities for Vote-kick abusers have even more reason to abuse such system, simple because they won't get punish for it such action....Good grief!!!

Please tell me what the issue was with that statement. It doesn't even apply to your situation.

[RhazeCain]

So generalizing:
On one hand, an individual has the right to participate in a group (not be kicked for nothing).
On the other hand, an individual has the right to not have the experience ruined by others in the group (need to kick someone).

When these two principles come in conflict, how to resolve? .. Majority rule of course.

It is fairly hard to abuse the system as is. I can only think of 2 ways:
- Player rejoins immediately after being kicked (class with instant queue).
- Group takes a random player through lower part of dungeon and then kicks them in order to allow a friend/FC member/etc to join for last boss/best loot/completion. (Unfortunately, this one is almost impossible to prove.)

Pretty much any other reason is acceptable (skill-level, annoying chatter, couldn't keep up, etc) as long as there are enough votes to support it.

[LionKing]

So generalizing:
On one hand, an individual has the right to participate in a group (not be kicked for nothing).
On the other hand, an individual has the right to not have the experience ruined by others in the group (need to kick someone).

When these two principles come in conflict, how to resolve? .. Majority rule of course.

It is fairly hard to abuse the system as is. I can only think of 2 ways:
- Player rejoins immediately after being kicked (class with instant queue).
- Group takes a random player through lower part of dungeon and then kicks them in order to allow a friend/FC member/etc to join for last boss/best loot/completion. (Unfortunately, this one is almost impossible to prove.)

When the group failed to understand the mechanic, one player got kicked because he was the lowest ILv among all (ilv 90). It is not because if he was undergeared, or he failed as his class. Do you think this is justice and righteous? I think not.

It is absurd and stupid when people could get away from kicking someone off their fun, just because the whole group failed to do the mechanic properly, and he is the lowest ilv among all ( not being undergeared) , despite he is not trolling, harassment, fail at his class, etc... "Skill level" is a very broad definition, anything from gear to DPS number, from not competent to handle mechanic to mess up the rotation, from making mistakes on purpose or by pure accidents, etc... pretty much anything , the vote-kick abuser can kick someone under the definition of "Skill level" and get away with it, even when the whole group fail.

It is, in contradiction, very easy to abuse such system, I can pretty much kick you if :

1/ You have the lowest ilv gear among us, not being undergeared.
2/ You don't have 100% xyz buff/debuff on the targets.
3/ You don't understand the fight whether you are first timer or not, whether the group fail as a whole or not.
And many many more..

All of this, I can kick you because you have low skill level, which is a matter fact, sometimes not true.

[LionKing]

Please tell me what the issue was with that statement. It doesn't even apply to your situation.

It, as a matter of fact, does have things to do in my case. "Skill level" is a key word here, as the message suggested, the vote kick is warranted for someone with a low skill level. In my case, the MNK suffered the vote kick from the other two because we all failed to deal with mechanic. The other two generalised the MNK as low skil level player, hence the vot kick and thought the could get away with is, which I find is absurd.