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  1. #1501
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    extortionate
    ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)nət,ɛk-/
    adjective

    1.
    (of a price) much too high; exorbitant.
    "£15 for that pony is extortionate."


    ex·tor·tion
    ikˈstôrSH(ə)n/

    noun

    the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

    synonyms:blackmail, shakedown; formal exaction
    "arrested on a charge of extortion"


    Which isn't what is happening right now so no, it's not extortion nor are the price extortionate at all. That's just using a hyperbole.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 10-29-2014 at 07:28 AM.

  2. #1502
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    Thegide Aellinsar
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    Since the cash shop is here to stay, it really needs the ability to gift items to other players.
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  3. #1503
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    extortionate
    ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)nət,ɛk-/
    adjective

    1.
    (of a price) much too high; exorbitant.
    "£15 for that pony is extortionate."
    I'm still waiting to see where I'm being pushed to buy cash shop items through threats.
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  4. #1504
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    Lamentations Finito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    extortionate
    ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)nət,ɛk-/
    adjective

    1.
    (of a price) much too high; exorbitant.
    "£15 for that pony is extortionate."
    Lol extortion, nah my boss who makes 12 million per year and is required to pay $15k per month in child support because of threats from legal officials, he knows what extortion is.

    If lil Bucky the redneck can slip a $5 dollar minion under his parents radar and get away with it, the bosses 8 kids can buy it all and he wont even notice.

    If you dont buy anything they wont notice either, we get it you dont like a cash shop in 14, like Tupsi said noone is forcing you to buy anything.

    Just for the record i have never liked cash shops either, but you and i are just little baitfish in a world full of sharks with platinum credit cards and no time to watch what the kid is spending while making all that money.

    And extortion never crossed their minds, because this isn't extortion.
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    Last edited by Lamentations; 10-29-2014 at 07:59 AM.

  5. #1505
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    Y'all realize that the dictionary isn't the be-all end-all of using a word right, right? We still have "gay" listed as meaning "lighthearted and carefree". Extortion is a very specific legal term in modern parlance. Are we also gonna defend using the phrase "solid d*ck" because it's 1950's slang for "straight talk"?

    The legal definition of extortion is much more complicated. And wrongly claiming it's being done is also termed as slander.
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    Last edited by Krr; 10-29-2014 at 08:06 AM.

  6. #1506
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I'm still waiting to see where I'm being pushed to buy cash shop items through threats.
    You'll be waiting a while, the SE goons have to got to get through everyone who hasn't actually bought Odins horse yet.
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  7. #1507
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    I don't understand what you are saying here. Did you confuse yourself? AFAIK there is NO optional content being offered in Ca$h $hop, only OPTIONAL ITEMS...

    If you don't want them, then don't buy them. OMG...don't even go tot he store. Are they pushing the shop down your throat? No, they announced it and that is all. Your cancelling your sub is doing nothing. They will be in no way affected by your decision.

    People need to stop throwing a tantrum over this and play or leave, that simple...well once the servers are fixed ^.^
    White Knight's gonna White Knight. Items ARE content, you are deluded if you think otherwise.
    Hey you and your blinkered ilk go ahead and defend SE for doing this, keep being taken advantage of by paying extra for stuff that has been cut from every patch and put in the greed shop. Go ahead and keep telling players like myself who aren't prepared to be mugged off to go ahead and leave, because the less people there are paying sub's ensures the longevity of the game right?
    Get a clue- people will leave over this, others like you who don't mind being ripped off would stay anyway if there wasn't a cash shop
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  8. #1508
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    Xania Zorzi
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    We already pay a subscription to support the game and have access to everything. If you're not getting access to the entire game, and it's apparently in such dire need of money that retainers and exclusive items need to be sold for cash, then what's the point of a sub? May as well make it F2P, get more of that sweet whale money.

    Cash shop in a subscription game is double dipping and greedy.
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    Last edited by Zorzi; 12-29-2014 at 10:05 PM.

  9. #1509
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorzi View Post
    We already pay a subscription to support the game and have access to everything. If you're not getting access to the entire game, and it's apparently in such dire need of money that retainers and exclusive items need to be sold for cash, then what's the point of a sub? May as well make it F2P, get more of that sweet whale money.

    Cash shop in a subscription game is double dipping and greedy.
    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    White Knight's gonna White Knight. Items ARE content, you are deluded if you think otherwise.Hey you and your blinkered ilk go ahead and defend SE for doing this, keep being taken advantage of by paying extra for stuff that has been cut from every patch and put in the greed shop. Go ahead and keep telling players like myself who aren't prepared to be mugged off to go ahead and leave, because the less people there are paying sub's ensures the longevity of the game right?
    Get a clue- people will leave over this, others like you who don't mind being ripped off would stay anyway if there wasn't a cash shop
    please, people, look at some of the previous posts. both of these points have been brought up no less than 300 times a piece, and have been discussed to death.

    I liked the restaurant analogy from 10 pages ago the best. The game is like a Chinese buffet. Your sub buys you a seat at the table and a standard meal of what is on the buffet lines. additionally, there is now an a-la-carte menu available to you for an additional cost, if you want something special.

    from day one, your sub never guaranteed you access to everything. can you get a fat chocobo in game for just your sub? didn't think so...
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  10. #1510
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    from day one, your sub never guaranteed you access to everything. Can you get a fat chocobo in game for just your sub? Didn't think so...
    Interesting that you used the fat chocobo as the example rather than the Coeurl. The fat choco was given to me much later than the Coeurl and at no extra cost.
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