Cash shop up!

[Dhex]

^ Thanks for vomiting that up- but what does it have to do with the conversation? Did someone make claims of ownership somewhere? Is someone suing for custody of the Lalas??

If you read any of it - which it's obvious you didn't; you'd understand that you don't own anything - you have a subscription based license to access the game. Nothing more or less.

[ApolloGenX]

If you read any of it - which it's obvious you didn't; you'd understand that you don't own anything - you have a subcription based license to access the game. Nothing more or less.

You have no idea what the discussion is, do you?

[Dhex]

You have no idea what the discussion is, do you?

From what I have read, people are claiming the sub only pays for your connection. So I would propose that SE needs to put out COMPLETED expansions, so that when you pay for an expansion you get all the content... instead of half finished content, with no idea what will be added/included.

All aspects of the Game (including but not limited to the Game computer code, updates, patches, expansion packs, characters, character names, character data, virtual items, character profile information, (non-personal) account information, chat transcripts, artwork, plot, dialogue, locations, sounds and music) are owned by Square Enix or its licensors. You do not have any property rights in the service account you use to play the Game ("FINAL FANTASY XIV Service Account" or "FFXIV Service Account").

I really don't see how you're missing this.

[ApolloGenX]

I really don't see how you're missing this.

I said you will get all the content - cause it's ...you know... FINISHED. It has ZERO to do with ownership.

Seriously?

(It has to do with concerns that cash shop development will take away from development of content and the rest of the game... this way the expansion would be complete, so people would get the full experience up front, without feeling trade offs are happening behind the scenes on unfinished content)

[Dhex]

I said you will get all the content - cause it's ...you know... FINISHED. It has ZERO to do with ownership.

Seriously?

(It has to do with concerns that cash shop development will take away from development of content and the rest of the game... this way the expansion would be complete, so people would get the full experience up front, without feeling trade offs are happening behind the scenes on unfinished content)

And I'm saying - it doesn't matter how you want the game released or updated (or not) you have no personal rights to anything Square Enix does with FFXIV - none. You have a license to access it. If you buy the expansion - it's an expanded license. They could release the full expansion - then retro-actively remove everything and put it into a cash shop - because the Terms of Service allows for that.

[ApolloGenX]

And I'm saying - it doesn't matter how you want the game released or updated (or not) you have no personal rights to anything Square Enix does with FFXIV - none. You have a license to access it. If you buy the expansion - it's an expanded license. They could release the full expansion - then retro-actively remove everything and put it into a cash shop - because the Terms of Service allows for that.

Great! Nothing I said disputes that or really has anything to do with that.