Will SE ever be able to shut the people on this forum up?

[Griss]

.18 Brought in a lot of good. And a bunch of stuff that still stands to be refined and tweaked. Its also the first real large scale attempt at class balancing, and that's a task that is a pain in the ass in the best of times. No way in the seven hells they were going to hit it out of the park with there first swing.

At the end of the day it's not us that gets to decide what is and isn't quality feed back. That unfortunate task goes to the brave, brave souls of the community team. Feedback is Feedback, If opposite viewpoints are posted on a given subject that gives a nice set of goal posts to shoot between. Now if you will excuse me i'm in the middle of brain storming new and more useful applications for my beloved Barbarian's bardiche cause brother combat ain't one of them right now.

[SuzakuCMX]

unfortunately most the people doing the "easy" Dungeon are beyond Rank 30... the ones that do it hear them cry hard lots but I agree with your prognosis that it is in fact easy(If you know what your doing, but unfortunately most people just slug along like usual, not using any brain power or skill). Just wanted to point out the fact that it being easy isn't associated with difficulty but rather people doing the dungeon beyond a reasonable rank :P Personal opinions aside anyways^^ I rarely see any groups under 35 even tbh its a joke xD

It's hard to get a party for it, and even then, they don't usually have cross-classed skills or enough ActionPoints to use them so it's a bit tight on skills :P CON have to be shoe-horned into healers because there's not space on the action bar for enmity reduction + buffs + heals + MP skills.

[GreyWolf]

[QUOTE=Vahzl;252099]
Where do you people get off thinking you are entitled to anything?
[QUOTE]

Hmmmm.... I hop back on every now an then, maybe every month to see if it's changed.... I feel entitled because I paid $50+tax for the game I played maybe a weeks worth in total >.>

[Ventus]

This thread has one of those overly militant "STFU all you complainers" OPs huh?

*sigh* so much irony in the fact that he is

1) complaining himself

2) being just as aggressive, if not more, than the people he complains about

[Auleirra]

I'm not going to read all this to hear the same thing over about someones sig and shutting up what i will say... *which may have been stated* is that you are all complaining about "FREE!!!" stuff god damn it leave it be.. bring up the real bugs you have and offer lagit suggestions. but just reading the titles of these complaints... marauder auto attack speed is fine.. its a huge AXE you try swinging one in real life any faster, pug simian thrash animation was the first cool looking animation for a high ranked class get over it let someone else have a chance. SP nerf... ok maybe... or Go out and find something else to do stop being a mindless leve zombie. NOW the cure hate ratio to tanking that is Something i would like to see fixed. the dungeon loot... bugger off its fine for those at the rank that can use it here is a better idea for you high ranked people who only log on to do endgame.. start working on a strategy to take out great buffalo and the High NM's without letting your mage die...
so instead of everyone bitching and mind you if you are in the forums bitching so much you are probably not playing the game which mean you've decided that you will a) take a break b) go to another game c) burn you computer and never see FFXIV again..... if none of those options apply to you then you are useless whinny little babies who can't see or even give credit to the developers who have made this game ONE HELL OF ALOT better then Sept 22, 2010.

[Vahzl]

This thread has one of those overly militant "STFU all you complainers" OPs huh?

*sigh* so much irony in the fact that he is

1) complaining himself

2) being just as aggressive, if not more, than the people he complains about

Like I said, /care about any opinions

[Orcishgrappler]

Vahzl SE put a buncha mobs right on top of the grade 5 gathering spots! SE clearly does not Respect THE LAND!!

[Mortikhan]

@topic Complainers- If someone states an idea and everyone smiles...check every pulse in the room...twice. I can pretty much say for certain that even sliced bread got bad reviews from someone.

@topic Trolls and E-Warriors- I am no saint...sometimes I say shit knowing full well I am going to get a beating for it from some angle. What I try to do is engage the troll or be the troll in one paragraph and make some sense in the other one. Makes it a lot easier to sift through the trash and the points I am trying to make. E-Warriors are usually people who found a place to say anything they want however they want to say it...in real life if they said half of that stuff to anyone they would be another nail pounded into a floorboard somewhere. Some are big brutes in real life who are not used to being talked to like they are here so they retaliate.

@topic Forum Etiquette and Mannerisms- LOLOLOLOL good luck. For some it is a simple communication problem where they can not express their ideas properly because of vocabulary, language or education limitations. For some it is a perception problem where they are listening to or focusing on the wrong thing and take exception to it. Then also there is the elitist/extremist who is hellbent on debasing the person and not the argument (your standard troll). Debate the topic and not the people giving the ideas and you have yourself a think tank. Debating the people leads to mudslinging contests where all the intelligent thought is used to think of taunts and REALLY good insults instead of really good compromises or counterpoints.

Ok you can all wake up now...I am done .

[Gramul]

I paid $50+tax for the game I played maybe a weeks worth in total >.>

So basically a standard game these days?

[Vahzl]

Wooo it's been 2 days, but the mod squad finally arrived!