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    I can't really call the hard mode dungeons 'harder versions of existing content' as they take different routes in the dungeon, have sidequests tied to them that further their lore, and have completely different enemy encounters to their earlier visits. they're less a difficulty mode and more a revisit of a piece of existing lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenz View Post
    i'm a legacy player that came back recently, glad to help.

    This is the funniest response I've ever seen to anything. I lol'd at work a bit too hard. Maybe because I remember that exact episode of the Simpsons, when Bart was working at the Burlesque house hahaha.


    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    Best example right now destiny, even though I'm playing it, there are a lot LOTS of problems more so than this game, buuut it's free outside the initial buy, so I play it and nothing much else to play right now.

    "It's free outside the initial buy" right up until they sell you expansion that was completed already and cut from the game just to make more money off of it. The areas are already in-game, fully fleshed out with enemies, boss mobs and dead ghosts, and are being blocked off with invisible walls. The download patch for the first expansion is less then 700KB. That is a damn key that just opens the world up for you that was snipped from the release to make more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post





    "It's free outside the initial buy" right up until they sell you expansion that was completed already and cut from the game just to make more money off of it. The areas are already in-game, fully fleshed out with enemies, boss mobs and dead ghosts, and are being blocked off with invisible walls. The download patch for the first expansion is less then 700KB. That is a damn key that just opens the world up for you that was snipped from the release to make more money.
    Exactly, I'm not buying the expansion packs though because of these companies are all doing the same thing, microtransactions in a fully bought game, day one dlc, rehashed content and calling it new. Every company is doing it and it's something that NEEDS to be stopped and people should STOP tolerating it. I remember back in the day when cheat codes were FREE and they gave FREE updates(dlc) and than put out expansion packs for mass amount of new content. The witcher 2 is prim example of one of the only games that have done this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    I can't really call the hard mode dungeons 'harder versions of existing content' as they take different routes in the dungeon, have sidequests tied to them that further their lore, and have completely different enemy encounters to their earlier visits. they're less a difficulty mode and more a revisit of a piece of existing lore.
    So rehashing old content as new to try and make it still relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    OMG ROKIEN!!!
    nice
    Thank you for going point by point.

    Is the gold saucer finally coming out on the expansion? That is one good news!!!
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    Posts from ErBear are blocked on my end for obvious reasons so I'll have to address points that are being presented by others in this thread.


    1. Content(instances)

    I haven't heard a clear emphasis on open world content, so I'd take any news about that with a grain of salt. It's just an instance-focused game. Though I do beleive more open world Content will exist, I seriously doubt it would ever meet the demands and expectations of those from the EQ, FFXI, or even WoW eras.

    2. Gear Progression

    Vertical Progression MMO is vertical. To continue to complain about it after a year is pointless. The game will always cycle out old gear and content for new. The old gear then becomes progression/vanity gear

    3. Mounts

    Can't see the full complaint/issue on this without a direct quote, not inclined to click "View Post" past the ignore filter. I will venture a guess that this may be due to the lack of variety of mounts. To this I will mention that it seems that the expansion has a focus on a very specific mount that will be an important figure for the expansion. And that there are 6 flying mounts available at the start of the expansion. So variety isn't something we're lacking here. And as mentioned by others, this is not really an important issue in the grand scheme of things.

    5. Expansion Pack

    See above, I can't see the context of this.

    6.Crafters

    As this is a vertical progression MMO, you will not have crafting ever truly equate that of dungeon gear, as it would bypass all forward momentum into the game's most difficult content. But, as proven with last patch, having the absolute utmost powerful gear does not matter, as older content gets adjusted as it ages. There is also the heavy empasis on the Vanity and Housing systems in which crafters rule. I've couple of dedicated crafters in my FC and Alliance and they're content as things are. I've even seem some pretty interesting meteria meld set ups for classes like Warrior, who are trying to squeeze out some good min-maxing. So there's still viability in being a crafter even if it doesn't reach top of the line. I don't expect this matter to change.

    7. P2P/F2P

    There's no discussion to be had here. FFXIV will be Pay to Play for the foreseeable future. The Cash shop will sell Vanity items and services only, and will never be Pay to Win. It has been repeated multiple times right out of Yoshida's own mouth. Expansions, as per normal, will be purchased content as it has with P2P MMOs for a long time now. Again this isn't going to be changed for the foreseeable future.

    These are how things stand, answering as best I can without baiting myself into viewing the posts of a person who's reputation proceeds them even after months of inactivity. I have severe doubts that these issues are ever going to be resolved to the original poster's expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    Thank you for going point by point.

    Is the gold saucer finally coming out on the expansion? That is one good news!!!
    Latest word is 2.55 ... so you won't need the expansion to play it, but will come out probably just weeks ahead of the expansion.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/145190-Dungeons-Opening-Up-To-Explore
    Make it happen.

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    I remember a lot of trolling in 1.0 Rokien but i'll put that aside.

    (I should state now that these are my views and I do not expect anyone to agree with them nor anything to be done about them. I am purely saying how I feel about the game. These are not to enrage people or to have people throw them in my face. )

    I agree with you on nearly every point. To me, even when it was a pile of turds, 1.x had a lot more potential than 2.x. I feel like there hasn't really been any new content added since 2.0 and that it is mainly the same content with a different skin. Which when you think about the complaints for 1.0 where it was "everything is looks the same" it is kinda funny.

    The sense of community that was around in 1.0 is almost completely gone and I don't think it will ever come back. You can now do all the content without any grouping as such. Before 2.0 if you wanted to kill HNMs you needed to get a group together (lets ignore the THM sololing everything :P) and go out and do the content. So it became a community game. ARR is a solo MMO now.

    I wish it would come back but that is not the game XIV is anymore. But the game is successful so this is the path it is going to keep. I am happy for SE that they have a game that is selling and doing well for them now but I will always remember 1.x as XIV and hope that another game comes out in that style!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corfish View Post
    Don't feed the troll. This happens every patch, this person is clearly a troll looking to rile people up, please don't add fuel to the fire.
    It's Rokien. Enough said.
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    OP:

    It really sounds to me like maybe this game isn't for you because you dislike literally EVERY single thing about this game that they've no plans of changing, or things that they deliberately changed TO.

    I agree with you on a lot of your points, btw. I've been on the fence for a long time about quitting this game because a lot of this stuff has gotten old and tired and they need to move on to bigger, bettter things, deeper gameplay.

    Oh, and:
    The throw away gear system can't really change at this point without somewhat undermining half the economy of the game.
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