So... Relic weapons stuck at lv 115 and new lv120 weapons are coming?

[RiceisNice]

It depends on how accessible the tomestones are. If it's anything like second coil on release, it'd be a random drop from final coil bosses. It only really became a big problem when they added ST/hunts and made UAT available from xande...it just made relic to the "why bother" perspective when you could obtain a UAT and sands fairly easily. Sure you could say "but it upgrades"...but that's the same standpoint as upgrading your unweathered/HA when the new one drops, only it's not gated by a progressive questline.

If they wanted Relic to be BiS or at least be on par with dreadwyrm/HA, they could incorporate some objectives into coil

I guess the problem I have is the whole "your weapon is of the legends!" or "It has the power of the zodiac braves!" kept being shoved at me at every step of the quest, with the master blacksmith himself even mentioning the weapon has some powerful lore behind it an wielded by some great individuals.
...then you could just hand Rowena a chunk of rock that may or may not be valuable for research and get a weapon which is stronger (and mind you that Gerlot's apprentice, who even admits Gerlot himself doesn't train him all that well, can upgrade it to be even stronker.)

That sort of thing...just doesn't sit right with me.

[Taban]

I am pretty sure that is wrong. IIRC animus came out slightly later because by that time I already had my tomestone from T7. I was the 2nd person, in my static, to get it too.

Nope, animus was available from day 1

[Alukah]

Wrong.

Fine, but it's still just 5 ilvl, nothing to cry for, also you are ignoring we got a new relic step just a patch ago, a step that can take 1-2 months unless you "no-life" it.

Relic will be the fourth best for a month (or less since it takes at least 3 weeks of poetics + clearing t11* to get the base ironworks weapon) and then in 2.45 it will go back to being the third best matching ironwork weapon, then in 2.5 it will be the second best matching the augmented ironwork, then in 2.55 it will match final coil weapon.

[Taban]

Fine, but it's still just 5 ilvl, nothing to cry for, also you are ignoring we got a new relic step just a patch ago, a step that can take 1-2 months unless you "no-life" it.

Relic will be the fourth best for a month (or less since it takes at least 3 weeks of poetics + clearing t11* to get the base ironworks weapon) and then in 2.45 it will go back to being the third best matching ironwork weapon, then in 2.5 it will be the second best matching the augmented ironwork, then in 2.55 it will match final coil weapon.

5 item levels can be a pretty big deal with how damage multipliers work. It's not the end of the world, but this is the first time that we've had a new raid without a corresponding relic upgrade. I was expecting a 5 item level increase to match the low tier of raid weapons with both the i130 and i135 weapons being superior.

[Kiara]

As others have said, while it sounds disappointing, realistically it should be fine:

* It'll probably take ~3 Weeks worth of Tomestones of Poetics (w/ the Weekly Cap) to grind enough Tomestones for the Base 120 Weapon, PLUS some [Item] from Final Coil (so the total population of players clearing that Turn will be pretty low still also).

And that's the bare minimum. Then an [Upgrade Item] will probably be in the 3rd Turn of Final Coil, meaning more time before clears start happening.

It gives Yoshi P and the team time to continue to develop / balance the Relic Upgrade System this time, and it'll be more of a "Cool News Item!" for that smaller patch when it does come out (e.g., 2.42, or whenever).

Of course it'd be nice to know now, but most people won't have Weapon i120's let alone 130's for a bit.

[Damane]

Well, the point OP is trying to make is that you won't need to run any end game to build enough poetic currency to get your i120 weapon. It would only take a couple of weeks of capping it.

And it is a little bit concerning.

I don't like how the do-nothing-to-get weapon is sorta beating the grind-like-a-zombie weapon. :I

relics need to be gone rather sooner then later, The disasters of Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons in FFXI... just dont do the same mistake again and let Relics die rather sooner in this game pls.

[RakaMaimhov]

I just broke the 800 light mark. Some of us aren't ready for another upgrade yet. Remember when they held off Novus becaus most people weren't finished with Animus yet?

That's not really the point, though.

It's about the raid gear always being a step ahead of the relics. That content (raiding) wouldn't be as relevant to do if there wasn't incentive to do it (superior gear).

If all we needed to do was brainless grinding for our gear, what fun would that be?

[Ilitsa]

Why should the players who like to work towards the raid weapon by spending hours wiping and learning the new raid take a back seat to a casual fiasco of grinding old content for a shiny weapon that is really just Vanity.

Oooh, someone used the word "casual" to describe a non-raider playerbase. How original and edgy~ We better all look up to them

Relic doesn't need to be top ilvl imo, it shows a hell of a lot more dedication to have it than a coil weapon, imo, be proud of your relic, OP.

[Faiyez]

Your little relic isn't meant to be the best weapon. Nexus actually was until this patch. Just because you no-lifed your Nexus doesn't mean you're entitled to another upgrade this soon.

[DracotheDragon]

the relic update of nexus and nous both came in there respected patches 2.x5 and 2.x8 my guess is the next relic updates will be added in 2.45 and 2.48 with a final part to THEESE relics in 2.5-part 2 (since 2.5 have been said to be only 2 parts) :3