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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuwu View Post
    Is this for real?
    Like, this is really something someone somewhere on earth is stressing over?

    Wow.

    Is all I will say.
    A lot of people feel the need to make their entire life about their sexuality, gender, or fetishes. It's really really silly and pathetic.
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  2. #32
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    Goji Degotye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    They don't "make the lore as they go". Most of it has been in place for years. Did you think Fernehalwes was making crap up off the top of his head at the lore panel? Even things like Bahamut being inside of Dalamud was there when 1.0 started. They just hadn't originally planned to bring him down.
    I guess Eternal Bonding had been inteded for same sex couples all along then and they just lied to us at the beginning.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuwu View Post
    Is this for real?
    Like, this is really something someone somewhere on earth is stressing over?

    Wow.

    Is all I will say.
    Anything with equal rights or whatever is touchy.
    I'm just happy we can all enjoy the event no matter gender because
    whether not you could marry same-sex was up in the air for a LOOOOONG time.
    I'm sad to say this is one of those "People find anything to complain about..." thing.
    Just come on people lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I guess Eternal Bonding had been inteded for same sex couples all along then and they just lied to us at the beginning.
    They had to think about it because of all the backlash they'd get.
    SE was damned if they did or didn't. It was thought about for a while.
    Had a tough choice.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 10-25-2014 at 08:25 AM. Reason: Replied to quote.

  4. #34
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    I get the feeling it was actually suggested, but the design team, after months of working on the new armor and clothing recipes, just heaved a deep sigh...
    ...and collectively threw their tablets at the person who suggested it, because they had enough work to deal with.

    In all seriousness, the amount of work that goes into designing and texturing armor and clothing that looks GOOD is a lot more than some would believe.
    Combine that with the fact that most males would probably not WANT to wear a dress other than as a gag, and it's just not worth the extra effort.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I guess Eternal Bonding had been inteded for same sex couples all along then and they just lied to us at the beginning.
    Same-sex marriage still isn't a thing in Eorzea, although same-sex relationships seem to be completely fine. Marriage just seems to be a thing of business rather than love. Just like it was on Earth until very recently. Eternal Bonding isn't marriage, and the devs make a really big point of saying that. So nothing has changed except that the devs decided to find a way to bring same-sex marriages in, when they were originally extremely wary of it.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    A lot of people feel the need to make their entire life about their sexuality, gender, or fetishes. It's really really silly and pathetic.
    Looked at the OP again and don't see anything about sexuality, gender, or fetishes. Just a desire to be allowed to wear what they want, which female characters are allowed to do. It's actually a big reason why I play a female character: more gear options, so I consider it the superior choice.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    Same-sex marriage still isn't a thing in Eorzea, although same-sex relationships seem to be completely fine. Marriage just seems to be a thing of business rather than love. Just like it was on Earth until very recently. Eternal Bonding isn't marriage, and the devs make a really big point of saying that. So nothing has changed except that the devs decided to find a way to bring same-sex marriages in, when they were originally extremely wary of it.
    So they can spin that one around but not this because... oh wait there is no reason why they couldn't do that. Where's the lore that says crossdresser don't exist in eorzea exactly? Or that it is not socially acceptable for a man to wear a skirt?
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  8. #38
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    This thread is terrible.

    Same-sex marriages is a big step forward for this game. Maybe it's best if SE, based in a heavily bias country of Japan when it comes to Same-sex marriages and couplings, should take this one step at a time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    I'm sad to say this is one of those "People find anything to complain about..." thing.
    The correct answer.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 10-25-2014 at 08:26 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    So they can spin that one around but not this because... oh wait there is no reason why they couldn't do that. Where's the lore that says crossdresser don't exist in eorzea exactly? Or that it is not socially acceptable for a man to wear a skirt?
    It's right there in the game. You know how male characters can't equip female items? You know how you see only one man in a dress and it's presented as a joke? Right there. The game doesn't need to come right out and say 'SKIRTS ON MEN ARE SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE, WARRIOR OF LIGHT.'
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    The game doesn't need to come right out and say 'SKIRTS ON MEN ARE SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE, WARRIOR OF LIGHT.'
    Especially since some skirts ARE socially acceptable.
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