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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Thankful you implemented same-sex "eternal bonding" but you need to rightfully support it if doing so.

    Patch Notes - tux is unisex whereas the dress is not.

    There's an underlying, negative message for support of one gender's decision but not the others.

    Gender-bias in Eorzea needs to change.
    Just because a guy is gay, or in this case both marriage partners are men, doesn't mean that one/both is a crossdresser. Are you saying you wanna dress up your King Adunis in a super-frilly wedding gown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    Just because a guy is gay, or in this case both marriage partners are men, doesn't mean that one/both is a crossdresser.
    Crossdressing has nothing to do with sexuality.

    Long story short, the devs aren't going to ignore the culture of Eorzea and integrity of the lore because of your feelings. I'm sorry you can't shoehorn everything about your private life into every video game.
    They make the lore as they go and they change it all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    They make the lore as they go and they change it all the time.
    They don't "make the lore as they go". Most of it has been in place for years. Did you think Fernehalwes was making crap up off the top of his head at the lore panel? Even things like Bahamut being inside of Dalamud was there when 1.0 started. They just hadn't originally planned to bring him down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    They don't "make the lore as they go". Most of it has been in place for years. Did you think Fernehalwes was making crap up off the top of his head at the lore panel? Even things like Bahamut being inside of Dalamud was there when 1.0 started. They just hadn't originally planned to bring him down.
    I guess Eternal Bonding had been inteded for same sex couples all along then and they just lied to us at the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I guess Eternal Bonding had been inteded for same sex couples all along then and they just lied to us at the beginning.
    Same-sex marriage still isn't a thing in Eorzea, although same-sex relationships seem to be completely fine. Marriage just seems to be a thing of business rather than love. Just like it was on Earth until very recently. Eternal Bonding isn't marriage, and the devs make a really big point of saying that. So nothing has changed except that the devs decided to find a way to bring same-sex marriages in, when they were originally extremely wary of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    Same-sex marriage still isn't a thing in Eorzea, although same-sex relationships seem to be completely fine. Marriage just seems to be a thing of business rather than love. Just like it was on Earth until very recently. Eternal Bonding isn't marriage, and the devs make a really big point of saying that. So nothing has changed except that the devs decided to find a way to bring same-sex marriages in, when they were originally extremely wary of it.
    So they can spin that one around but not this because... oh wait there is no reason why they couldn't do that. Where's the lore that says crossdresser don't exist in eorzea exactly? Or that it is not socially acceptable for a man to wear a skirt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    So they can spin that one around but not this because... oh wait there is no reason why they couldn't do that. Where's the lore that says crossdresser don't exist in eorzea exactly? Or that it is not socially acceptable for a man to wear a skirt?
    It's right there in the game. You know how male characters can't equip female items? You know how you see only one man in a dress and it's presented as a joke? Right there. The game doesn't need to come right out and say 'SKIRTS ON MEN ARE SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE, WARRIOR OF LIGHT.'
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