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  1. #1381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    What are you talking about? Nothing is being removed. :l Some vanity will be available via the CS, others in-game. They aren't being taken away.
    Well, that's true. For now, they're only decreasing the amount of beans on your table with a small amount. But most other restaurants that have gone this way have gradually decreased the amount of beans on the table until there's only one or two beans left, and those are rather tiny and wrinkly and certainly don't look as appetizing as the ones you have to pay extra for.


    Another thought struck me, though. People seem very fond of comparing to other MMOs with cash shops (whether or not those games are F2P or not). The thing is, I've seen in the MMOs that I've looked at (read: tried playing) that A) you get a certain amount of cash shop currency with your subscription and/or B) there's a way of acquiring cash shop currency in game -- through quests or achievements, usually. While this is usually nowhere near enough to buy what you want when you want, it does offer options for those who either don't have extra money to spend or who are against spending it to slowly accumulate enough to buy things. If something along those lines were to be offered in FFXIV, I have to admit I'd be less against a cash shop than I am today.


    And for those of you saying that the pricing is very reasonable (possibly compared to prices in other games, which IMO shouldn't have any bearings on this game), please consider this: While the economy in the States (for example) might be fairly similar from one state to another, the European userbase is another matter entirely. There are countries here where the price of the subscription is just the price of a nice dinner per month, but then there are countries where it'd be the price of five or six nice dinners per month. It's not only a matter of "spending some pocket money" on that hat. It might just as well be "do I drive my car those 13km to work this week or do I buy that hat and walk to work?".
    I'm not entirely sure what I'm trying to say here, tbh. Probably that what's reasonable and not is very much dependent on the average prices of things where you live, and that it's kinda rude to say, "I think these prices are reasonable, so that means they are."

    And... there's this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    How is it in any sense reasonable that NINE (9) single items, for one character, should be more expensive than a full-size game? O.o
    (posted in the "correction of prices for cash shop items" thread)
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  2. #1382
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    So, all of you doom and gloom kids:

    The following seasonal event items have been added to the inventories of Calamity salvager NPCs in the three city-states:
    -Summer Event Items-
    So about SE removing items from game and putting it on Cash Shop only....what was that again? If you did it, you're set. If you're new and missed the event, you never had access to these items to begin with. And would you look at that? 2.4 still introduces ingame mounts and minions.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...0482c3e441d852
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  3. #1383
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    What are you talking about? Nothing is being removed. :l Some vanity will be available via the CS, others in-game. They aren't being taken away.
    It is. The vanity kit will have been produced anyway, whether it be through crafting or dungeons. the difference now is the always present question of whether it'll be locked behind a second paywall. We are being robbed of content because daddy Sqaure Enix will never change, and will always try to screw over their most faithful eventually.
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  4. #1384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    So, all of you doom and gloom kids:



    So about SE removing items from game and putting it on Cash Shop only....what was that again? If you did it, you're set. If you're new and missed the event, you never had access to these items to begin with. And would you look at that? 2.4 still introduces ingame mounts and minions.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...0482c3e441d852


    That's exactly what people were worried about, what are you trying to prove? lmao. But hey I'd be surprised if for once you actually understood someone else's post.
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  5. #1385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    That's exactly what people were worried about, what are you trying to prove? lmao. But hey I'd be surprised if for once you actually understood someone else's post.
    You were one of the many who stated that SE will take gear out of the game to sell on the Cash Shop, when they just stated that's not the case. Sadly, you seem too bent on breaking forum rules by personally attacking to understand the situation
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  6. #1386
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    It would have been available at the Calamity Salvager regardless of the Cash Shop. No one ever talked about that.

    Also lmao I don't care, I won't be posting here for long anyway.
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  7. #1387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    It would have been available at the Calamity Salvager regardless of the Cash Shop. No one ever talked about that.
    Proof you didn't even read and decided to attack people - Most people said the items from this past even would only be sold on cash shop and "based on other MMORPGs with a cash shop" new items will only be sold on cash shop, like new Minions and Mounts, when "we should be able to obtain them in-game."

    Good try though.
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  8. #1388
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    I deal with this nickle n dime sh!t enough in real life! I don't want this crap in my video game too.
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  9. #1389
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Proof you didn't even read and decided to attack people - Most people said the items from this past even would only be sold on cash shop and "based on other MMORPGs with a cash shop" new items will only be sold on cash shop, like new Minions and Mounts, when "we should be able to obtain them in-game."

    Good try though.
    Good try? I'm right. Can I obtain past event gear in-game if I buy FFXIV today? No. That's what people didn't want and that's what happened. It is not that hard to understand lmao. For everyone else at least.

    There's almost a post in every page of this thread with someone writing that this has nothing to do with Calamity Salvager, but of course you'd bring it up again.
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  10. #1390
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    Only reason I'm against the cash shop is purely the Odin mount, which has been in the game since early "Letters from the Producer", which means they made a conscious decision to exclude this as a content drop. As for the rest, I'm fine with past event items being sold in this manner.

    New items should (in my opinion) have a method of being earned in-game even if added to the cash shop.

    If you can buy a cosmetic piece of gear, that piece of gear should also be able to be crafted.
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