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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Ifrit: Only has value against trash mobs that typically die before you would gain any benefits from Contagion. Situations like this are rare; it pretty much requires that the trash mobs be very weak (WP, AK, CM, Prae) and that your party be very strong. Ifrit's DPS is technically higher than Garuda, but your DoTs are top priority.

    Titan: Very, very rarely has a place in a dungeon; generally only at low levels if your tank and/or healer is struggling. Due to having no snap-hate ability (aka, Provoke), using him to take over when a tank dies on a boss is a risky prospect, though it CAN work if your group can kite the boss long enough, and if your healer is smart enough to monitor him and help keep him alive. Even then, the tank should resume duties as soon as able.

    Garuda: In all other cases, which is nearly all cases period, use Garuda.

    As for Titan out-tanking real tanks, generally this will only happen if Titan has a head start on the mob, and THAT will only happen if fighting a group of mobs. Titan can easily overcome the hate generation from Flash or Overpower (aoe hate) spam, but there's no way he can keep up against Rage of Halone or Butcher's Block combo (focused hate) spam.
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Zara Diaspora
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 63
    I've used Titan in runs for various things, usually it's low levels and new tanks I've seen don't use aoe's enough or do things like use the last combo move they have but never the first thinking it always activates. I also use Titan Egi when going into new dungeons when they're released, out of all of them the one I remember it being most useful is Siren, the first boss throwing titan on a wolf and me using bio on another to get it off the healer, we won first run through. Even now I use it if I don't feel comfortable with the party and we go through just fine, other times if I see the gear is up I'll throw out garuda in the fight. When I say I don't feel comfortable, I don't mean I look at their gear and suddenly decide..if they are having hate issues with trash mobs along the way, a boss with multiple adds is going to be even worse, and I adjust to that situation so we can live.

    I use Ifrit for trash mobs along the way, and switch to Garuda for bosses. Sure titan is situational but it's going to happen, that's the way our job is we adjust to the situation. I've had to throw out Titan / toss Eye on someone and throw out a few cures while DoT'ing (not at full dps of course give up a bit just to help survive) just to help keep someone alive who might be struggling. Titan isn't the go-to but he has a place, though the % maybe low in his use in dungeons.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 10-24-2014 at 09:46 PM.

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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    As for Titan out-tanking real tanks, generally this will only happen if Titan has a head start on the mob, and THAT will only happen if fighting a group of mobs. Titan can easily overcome the hate generation from Flash or Overpower (aoe hate) spam, but there's no way he can keep up against Rage of Halone or Butcher's Block combo (focused hate) spam.
    Wait, arnt all blaming "bad summoners" for bringing out titan egi?
    Why change the subject to "bad tanks"?
    I guess not watching whats happening around him and just watching group aggro and taking all which isnt red, those are BAD tanks!
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