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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I think the fact we have a dps job that can lower its dps output to offer support disagrees with this. Yes, BRD is expected to dps, but that's not its only role. It's also a support job, as situational as its support may be.
    Alot of the dps roles have support tactics implemented in their moves. IE Summoner's miasma implementing disease, and Dragoons move (disembowel I think?) adding more susceptibility to piercing damage, allowing BRDs to do more dmg + other drgs in the group as well since spears/bows count as piercing dmg. Bards support moves are just more up front and in your face with regards to what they do (Oh hey I got a song the restores mp noice)

    Regardless a DPS rdm wouldn't really add much to the game, other man MAYBE repping a brd if they actually incorporated the use of Refresh/Haste as they did in XI...but with that they would need to beef up their dmg. Irregardless, a RDM in FFXIV will not be the same RDM you've had in the past if it is indeed implemented, with our current BRD job being the example of that, along with SMN. The current system just doesn't allow for a heavy support class OR a job that has been dubbed 'A Jack of all Trades'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    Alot of the dps roles have support tactics implemented in their moves. IE Summoner's miasma implementing disease, and Dragoons move (disembowel I think?) adding more susceptibility to piercing damage, allowing BRDs to do more dmg + other drgs in the group as well since spears/bows count as piercing dmg. Bards support moves are just more up front and in your face with regards to what they do (Oh hey I got a song the restores mp noice)
    Then you agree that the dps role is the most fitting for a support job.

    Regardless a DPS rdm wouldn't really add much to the game
    The same can be said of every single job they will ever introduce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Then you agree that the dps role is the most fitting for a support job.



    The same can be said of every single job they will ever introduce.
    No I don't agree. I believe that they can go a different route if they decide to make RDM a healer with some support moves instead of just rehashing what they did with BRD. For example, in situations during T9 if your WHM is halfway decent, most whms can solo heal parts of that fight (golems, heavens fall with no add etc). This usually leaves the SCH in a position to dps while their fairy is healing along with the whm. The fairy itself is a huge support role, with Selene being of great use to push DPS phases.

    Now let's reverse that and align RDM along the healer route, and give them decent heals (not the BEST but something), and give them some cool support moves as well, such as haste/refresh. While your other healer is primarily healing (either whm or sch can work TBH), the RDM is buffing the party in between heals if need be. The only issue I can see this maybe being an issue perhaps lack of AOE heals if you have a SCH alongside the RDM. Don't get me wrong, succor + shield+ Eos Regen can suffice for it, but finding a decent sch capable of these things is another story <_< And since past games, RDMs were never given aoe spells, I'm assuming they would be lacking in the department. The same thing can be said of their AOE dps rotation if they were actually implemented as a dps class...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    Now let's reverse that and align RDM along the healer route, and give them decent heals (not the BEST but something)
    And then DF gives you two RDMs and you're screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    And then DF gives you two RDMs and you're screwed.
    4 rdm dps gonna be so sweet too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    4 rdm dps gonna be so sweet too
    Which is more likely to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Which is more likely to happen?
    Nothing, que won't pop because everyone is playing DPS ninjas/rdms/drks, GGGGGGGG
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