Correction of prices for optional items

[ColorOfSakura]

Are the fantasias uncapped? I mean, if I want to buy ONE, more than once, will I be able to? I like to change monthly, err, I liked it when I was able to. No way in holy hell will I purchase the 5 fantasia however.

Fantasias look to be uncapped now, yes. I think the reason they're selling the 3 and 5 increments is if you just want a small discount and want to have extras on hand just in case.

[Boyzby]

Y'know, I was super excited about the Wind-Up Minfilia and Thancred being available during the anniversary, because it made me look forward to next year's, when the possibility of one of them being Y'shtola. Nope. It's just going to be available for people to buy for $5 and it may not ever be part of The Rising. Obvious opportunity wasted by greed. :/

The other thing I hate is I'm going to buy it.

[Lux_Rayna]

Obvious opportunity wasted by greed. :/

It annoys me to no end when ppl say this. How do you know greed has anything to do with it? It costs money to provide a service. If you want to keep providing a service, or improve the service you are providing, that requires more money. What makes this accusation particularly disgusting is that FFXIV operated at a *loss* for an entire year just so they could provide you with a better service. Then you turn around and accuse them of being greedy. Without proof! I mean wow..thats pretty messed up.

[Eej]

The other thing is that FFXIV doesn't even get to keep all the money it makes. Rumour has it a lot of it goes to keeping the less successful parts of the company buoyant.

[Rjain]

A business coming up with ways to make more money from its customers? Be still my aching heart!

I'm sure you guys can put aside buying one or two McDonalds meals over the course of several months to pay for some cosmetic items you might like. If you don't want them, don't pay for them. It's not pay-to-win.

[Lux_Rayna]

A business coming up with ways to make more money from its customers? Be still my aching heart!

I'm sure you guys can put aside buying one or two McDonalds meals over the course of several months to pay for some cosmetic items you might like. If you don't want them, don't pay for them. It's not pay-to-win.

But...without their happy meals they will be very upset.

[Moqi]

A business coming up with ways to make more money from its customers? Be still my aching heart!

That doesn't mean every choice they make is right or justifiable. You can make money and make your costumers feel valued and respected.

[LittleArrow]

Heya there Lux_Rayna!

I think we were chatting in the petition thread yesterday. I definitely see you're point, about people making accusations, but I think you're discrediting those that are upset. There were reports that SE made profit off of FFXIV last year, http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02...ofitable-2013/

They may be at a loss or be profitable, we don't know. However, based off the information we do know, people are led to believe this game is successful off of the subscriptions, b/c up until now they've produced quality content WITHOUT a cash shop. We've had a beautiful fanfest, a full year of content, and an expac on its way off the back of subscriptions and box purchases.

I definitely don't want to sound like I know what their pulling in, because I don't. Yet, I can't fault others for feeling like this is greedy when cash shops have proven time and time again to many MMO players to be a shameless and unnecessary cash grab in some games. It's also been proven with cash shops that the wealthy majority are the ones who are often heard the most since those few are supporting the game. There are prime examples of how companies time and time again promise a cash shop is a tool, then use it as a weapon to hold up customers for their money with unfair pricing models - Tera (promised it would only be vanity at first), GW2 (promised vanity but offered game enhancing buffs), LotR (very unfair pricing models when selling their expansions - per land), and the list goes on.

Although I do feel these games I've listed (with the exception of GW2) started off as subscription games and went to F2P possibly out of desperation, the fact of their unfair pricing models still stands to this day.

If FFXI didn't exist, I wouldn't have an argument. If the first 2-3yrs of WoW didn't exist, I wouldn't have anything to point at. The fact is, games can and do perform at a profit without cash shops. I'm not saying FFXIV isn't entitled to put one in (I definitely disagree with them switching in game items that were once free with sub are now sold in cash shops - look at my comment), but I also don't think it's fair for you to seemingly ignore what provides players with this sense of a company looking "greedy."

Hehe Sorry for the wall of text ^^ /

[SongJoohee]

That doesn't mean every choice they make is right or justifiable. You can make money and make your costumers feel valued and respected.

No... no... it does. They've convinced me.

Patch 2.5: Subscription costs doubled.

But it's okay guys, it's so they can make more money! Anyway, if you can't afford it just stop buying food. Gosh, whiners.

[Eej]

No... no... it does. They've convinced me.

Patch 2.5: Subscription costs doubled.

But it's okay guys, it's so they can make more money! Anyway, if you can't afford it just stop buying food. Gosh, whiners.

Nice strawman. Too bad cosmetic minions and mounts are not actually needed to play the game like a subscription fee or food to not starve.