The Many Deaths of Final Fantasy XIV

[Violyre]

Personally, even vanity items ( Like wind-Up dolls, craftable clothing etc) Do play a HUGE role on the Market Boards). The more they add anything that should be in the game ( Like the Odin Mount/Wind-up dolls etc), to the Cash Shop, It does take away from the game. Even Vanity items I am not so keen with. Seasonal items? Yeah I suppose that's fine. Anything outside of that is not cool.

I can agree with this since you're calm about it. I do think there could be an alternative that would hit three areas at once: letting people sell the items from the shop in-game. This would please the people that don't want to pay real money, the people who may turn to buying gil because they could buy an item and legally sell it for gil, and the RMT because the people second on this list now have a legal method.

[Theresa]

These forums are getting worst every day

[Mjollnir]

The only thing that would kill this game is Square turning off the servers.

Thank the Twelve they've not done that... more than once per week!

#69: Too much server downtime during MY scheduled Coil static.

[MageBlack]

OP:

Too bad you don't have access to the beta forums, that was an adventure and a half... Oh! and you cannot forget to add (i'm going to get shot for this) "Same Sex Marriage" to your list.

If any of the others reading this post who were in beta, I'm sure they would agree that every other thread was "doom and gloom!" worse than with the cash shop. What's going on now is relatively minor in comparison. Since then we only have the occasional topic that pops up where you get a few "dog with a bone" posters who cant let go on either side.

[Starlord]

I can agree with this since you're calm about it. I do think there could be an alternative that would hit three areas at once: letting people sell the items from the shop in-game. This would please the people that don't want to pay real money, the people who may turn to buying gil because they could buy an item and legally sell it for gil, and the RMT because the people second on this list now have a legal method.

Mounts as far as I can remember, aren't in the MB, they are all obtainable via quests/Primal battles/Vet Rewards etc. That's how it is structured atm. I like how the game runs that way. Work hard for the items you get in-game . The Odin Mount being buy-able on the cash shop ( exclusively) takes away on what could be a Odin Primal Battle reward ( The fight from the fan fest).

The wind-up dolls are currently pre 2.4 obtainable via quests/FATEs/Treasure Maps etc. Taking potential Minions that can be sold for good gil for getting it in-game and putting it exclusively in the cash shop, takes away some of the gil a player could have made if they got it.

Buying it via cash shop then making it sellable in-game is a little unfair. ( do you know how expansive people will put them for?) Anywhere from 5mil-20 mil. Because they are cash shop items bought with real money. What fun is it to instantly get something when you can work for it and feel good about your new item? It is a game after all, I can understand F2P games, they kinda need to do that sort of thing, but P2P everything developed for the game should be obtainable in game somehow.

Yes I am calm, because yelling doesn't bring anything but grief and arguing. I have no need for that .

[Niamh_Rillemaugh]

OP: /clap Keep fighting the good fight, but I'm afraid General Discussion will never be saved.

[Codek]

This thread from this time last year!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-on-this-game.

Also This...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-games-coffin.

[TheRogueX]

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Bravo, bravo! I was all set to yell at you for the ridiculous claim that FFXIV was going to die, but I must instead grace you with my applause.

[Violyre]

I see your point, Starlord. The entire thing is basically walking on eggshells.

Somehow, the economy needs to be fixed before this can be implemented as I think. I would make a vendor that sells something for a price based on the total amount of gil in circulation would need to come first. There has to be a gilsink and it has to be something rich people would want. With that money out of the system, the price would gradually lower to a price normal people will pay. Add something every month. This could also benefit if there was a tracking on people who buy gil to get said item, and ban that player and all RMT involved. The biggest thing is that gilseller pockets need to be cleared, and not just banned. The gil sitting on that gilseller character would hurt this system.

With that taken care of, then you could introduce the cash store and allow people to sell things in-game. Because of the first part, I believe the price from being sold would come down as well, because the economy would be firmer.

Now that we have a legal RMT, and money being removed from the system, the amount of gil from gilsellers would become laughable because they also have to adjust to meet the new economy. The risk on that is that 20K is the new 1M (I'm sorry, 1000K), and idiots buy the 20K packages because they're idiots and 20K is like...clearing every roulette a day.

So I admit that there are flaws in my thoughts, but it would be something they need to study first.

This thread from this time last year!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-on-this-game.

I will look into that one! Someone mentioned it earlier, but I had no source. Now that I do, it'll help!

[JTribal]

Best thread I've seen in my life. Carry on!

Edit - Says the guy with the housing qoute sig :/