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  1. #161
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    Citation Envoyé par Fellisin Voir le message
    That's all and well. But could you keep it too the other MULTIPLE threads where people are expressing their displeasure.
    Fair point. I can't comment for the other people posting disgruntlement about the cash shop in here, but I felt my feed back was relevant to the topic, as the cash shop will directly influence the transaction system that has failed me. Guess you think otherwise. Apologies if that's inconvenienced you.
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  2. #162
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    Citation Envoyé par Fellisin Voir le message
    That's all and well. But could you keep it too the other MULTIPLE threads where people are expressing their displeasure. Instead of hi-jacking someone's thread on what discussing sort of merchandise they would like to see be it digital or physical.
    This. 100% this.

    @Amberyl Please, I understand your concern and complaints, but derailing legitimate threads isn't the way to do it. it doesn't help, it looks like trolling. You look REALLY, REALLY bad here. move your cencerns over to the other thread, the one going at 1200 posts already, its where you will most likely be heard.

    Same goes for you, @Sanghelios

    edit- my post took a while to make, and you apologized for it in the meantime. imam like that post in deference, and hopefully we can all move on. We are the players, We are all on the same side here.
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    Dernière modification de tocsin, 22/10/2014 à 21h12

  3. #163
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    Citation Envoyé par Amberyl Voir le message
    TD:LR. Shut up and let people tell the company what they think.
    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with this. I disagree with throwing out 'white knight' just because you like something I don't. But please don't go around trying to tell people what they can and cannot post. Feel free however to disagree with them / call them names / argue till you're both completely blue in the face. But let people share their honest opinions in any thread they want as long as it's relevant and within forum guidelines.
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  4. #164
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    Citation Envoyé par tocsin Voir le message
    Please, I understand your concern and complaints, but derailing legitimate threads isn't the way to do it. it doesn't help, it looks like trolling. You look REALLY, REALLY bad here.
    I have little concerns as to how I appear. That level of commitment to change is why XIV was relaunched in the first place. Sorry, but sometimes the right thing isn't the easy thing.

    But you make a valid point, and I've already responded to someone else in that regard.

    /hf
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  5. #165
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    Citation Envoyé par Amberyl Voir le message
    Fair point. I can't comment for the other people posting disgruntlement about the cash shop in here, but I felt my feed back was relevant to the topic, as the cash shop will directly influence the transaction system that has failed me. Guess you think otherwise. Apologies if that's inconvenienced you.
    That sounds more like a technical fault. Which has nothing to do with sort of merchandise people would like to see. So it's completely irrelevant to the original purpose of this thread.

    Complain about what you like as much as you like. But please keep it in the relevant threads!!

    Citation Envoyé par Cutie_McSnuggles Voir le message
    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with this. I disagree with throwing out 'white knight' just because you like something I don't. But please don't go around trying to tell people what they can and cannot post. Feel free however to disagree with them / call them names / argue till you're both completely blue in the face. But let people share their honest opinions in any thread they want as long as it's relevant and within forum guidelines.
    But the thread is about asking what sort of merchandise people would like to see, some of which has nothing to do with new cash shop as it includes physical merchandise. So it hardly relevant at all to go a" I hate cash shop" rants. There are multiple other threads which discuss this subject already.

    If anything going around ranting at how much you hate cash shop in every possible thread you can, is only go start turning people away from your honest opinions and they'll be less likely to listen or support them.
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    Dernière modification de Fellisin, 22/10/2014 à 21h28

  6. #166
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    Citation Envoyé par Fellisin Voir le message
    That sounds more like a technical fault. Which has nothing to do with sort of merchandise people would like to see.
    Yes, it is a technical fault. Which is completely relevant, because the broader the range of things on the shop, as per the request of people in threads like this one, the greater the strain on the billing/deployment system, which is already failing.

    And to add further relevance, it seems the account itself may not even be there anymore to apply a card to, as Square are now asking me to provide screen caps of an access error the game throws at me, which claims the game has never even been played on that account.

    So we get a cash shop on top of this service, and Square constantly write to the character database to add all these new things that you guys in this thread want. What are the chances of potential corruption/deletion problems like this reoccurring?

    Pretty damn high, I'd say.
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  7. #167
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    Felisin Dawnthief
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    Citation Envoyé par Amberyl Voir le message
    Yes, it is a technical fault. Which is completely relevant, because the broader the range of things on the shop, as per the request of people in threads like this one, the greater the strain on the billing/deployment system, which is already failing.

    And to add further relevance, it seems the account itself may not even be there anymore to apply a card to, as Square are now asking me to provide screen caps of an access error the game throws at me, which claims the game has never even been played on that account.

    So we get a cash shop on top of this service, and Square constantly write to the character database to add all these new things that you guys in this thread want. What are the chances of potential corruption/deletion problems like this reoccurring?

    Pretty damn high, I'd say.
    Umm No it not relevant at all. Your issue is technical & billing not merchandising. It should there for be taken up with SE and really in a threads which deals with bugs with in the game & billing problems.
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  8. #168
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    Citation Envoyé par Fellisin Voir le message
    Umm No it not relevant at all.
    It's absolutely relevant. You're asking Square to put more load onto a system that has already failed me. How can I not think that's a bad idea? o_0
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  9. #169
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    Lyssiah Stormwhisper
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    @Amberyl: Have you tried contacting your bank about the issue? You haven't included a lot of relevant details about what the error is besides unable to use your credit card on two accounts. Perhaps the fault lies with your bank? The automated system might see the two incoming transactions from the same company and believe it's attempting a duplicate charge. I've had a similar issue in the past, the resolution was keeping the payments about a week apart from each other.
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  10. #170
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    Citation Envoyé par Amberyl Voir le message
    It's absolutely relevant. You're asking Square to put more load onto a system that has already failed me. How can I not think that's a bad idea? o_0
    Ok it failed you. Is this a wide spread problem? even it was so, it still wouldn't be relevant.

    Because we're discussing what we would like to see. It speculation and quite frankly at this point in time its a pie in a sky discussion on merchandise. It has nothing to do with billing or technical problems you have gone through.

    Hell one of the merchandising idea wouldn't even include SE billing system at all. As it was discussion on how it be nice if figureprints could do FFXIV figures.

    I am truly sorry that you had problems with SE. But I don't think you're doing yourself any favours, in misdirecting your ire at people who are not connected to your issue with the system.
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