Cash shop confirmed

[SongJoohee]

Would those who are in favour of the cash shop be okay if Square Enix removed the primal mounts from the current Extreme primals on the 28th and put them in the Cash Shop along side Slepnir?

Because that's what has happened with Slepnir pretty much, just the trial where he was due to be dropped isn't out yet and he got thrown into the Cash Shop instead.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Would those who are in favour of the cash shop be okay if Square Enix removed the primal mounts from the current Extreme primals on the 28th and put them in the Cash Shop along side Slepnir?

Because that's what has happened with Slepnir pretty much, just the trial where he was due to be dropped isn't out yet and he got thrown into the Cash Shop instead.

On this thread, i have counted like 15 people who would be perfect with that. Sad isnt it?

[SongJoohee]

On this thread, i have counted like 15 people who would be perfect with that. Sad isnt it?

I find it really really bizarre. I can understand them being okay with it, but some people here even go as far to say the Cash Shop will be a positive addition to the game.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

I find it really really bizarre. I can understand them being okay with it, but some people here even go as far to say the Cash Shop will be a positive addition to the game.

I also think a cash shop will do right, and will serve for those who want to get something ALREADY in game in a faster way and also contribute a bit more to the company, im totally ok with that. The problem is when the item is EXCLUSIVE of the cash shop.

[mekia]

I also think a cash shop will do right, and will serve for those who want to get something ALREADY in game in a faster way and also contribute a bit more to the company, im totally ok with that. The problem is when the item is EXCLUSIVE of the cash shop.

Item's in the cash shop should be exclusive. Or older items you can't get right now and don't want to wait a whole year for an event to start. If you put Mounts in the cash shop which can be farmed or have a very low drop rate you will anger A LOT of people who farmed those mounts.

"Hey got the 0.01% mount from xxxx NM! YAY"
"yeah bought the thing for 20$ yay?"


People want exclusive items only they have. Low drop rate/hard battles whatever but people want that stuff. And if you give them a way to pay for it with real money it will devalue the whole item. Keep items in the cash shop exclusive or old stuff.

[mekia]

I find it really really bizarre. I can understand them being okay with it, but some people here even go as far to say the Cash Shop will be a positive addition to the game.

You pay extra to get extra stuff, i think it is a positive thing for players and the company itself. Said the same about WoW cash shop. If you want extra mounts you pay extra money big deal xD

[DeceptionsWrath]

You pay extra to get extra stuff, i think it is a positive thing for players and the company itself. Said the same about WoW cash shop. If you want extra mounts you pay extra money big deal xD

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

[mekia]

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

Just go back one page and it's answered there .

[tocsin]

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

For one, how do you get 25 million a month? we have 2 million created accounts. according to ffxivsoul, factoring in inactives, there are maybe 500k active players, and accounting for alts, maybe 300k active subs.

second, your sub does not cover any extras. Reference T&C

I'm reading through every page of this thread and couldn't help myself; I had to respond to this..... person...before I went on.

Yeah, That was my bad. I hadn't factored in sands and oils. They still require soldiery, but removing half that requirement isn't going to help.

in 2.4, though, i110 gear is likely going to be like i90 is now, a baseline.

[Cynric]

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Vanity gear means Vanity gear not the current baseline of gear. There was also a comment you made about Atma being in the shop? Nah man, that's also pay to win. I wanted to reply to you so bad but I ran out of daily posts.

This shop agree with it or not, I'm not making a decision yet, but if Yoshida was serious about what he said for no pay to win. It doesn't matter.

It'll never happen where you see items that give any kind of advantage what so ever. That means, No atma, No i90, No i110, No free levels, No Experience boosters, No Instant 50's ,No relic weapons, No Nexus Light boosters, No Materia, No Alexandrite, No Tomestones, No Allied seals, No GC seals, None of that.

I'm not trying to be mean but, You need to understand where the line is drawn between acceptable and pay to win. Mounts, Minions, old event stuff, that does nothing to anyone, cept maybe collectors. That stuff up there though, even just a tiny tiny advantage is still considered pay to win. You said you deserve to have done 12 hours of farming because you worked for 12 hours? By that logic someone who works double shifts every day and can't even be bothered to play instead of sleep should be able to buy High end raid equipment.

It just doesn't work like that.

As for my thoughts on the Cash shop itself. Eh, A little salty about the Sleipnir, but with no confirmation of whether or not any of this stuff is cash shop exclusive, I will reserve my judgment period.

What harm could there be if these little minions for a couple of bucks come from some maps you'd have to grind as well as the cash shop? Or if Sleipnir comes from Odin Primal.

Farm or buy. That's hardly a reason to complain about something or cancel a sub for.

We just don't know enough yet and I'm not the type to judge before I know what's going on.