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  1. #31
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    So, wait, at the fanfest they said they have no plans to allow you to share access to housing with your marriage partner, but are possibly considering it maybe down the road? Because that really sucks!

    My RL wife and I play regularly from the same room. Our gil is generally pooled, with us splitting our money gathering efforts, like I catch fish and she desynths them and we both sell/give away the results based on whose retainer has free space and who feels like babysitting the MB prices. We've saved 30 mil so far and are getting more as time passes. Our plan is to keep saving until we can share a house, and then buy the biggest, best one we can afford. It's silly for only one of us to be able to access the house's features, and buying two houses next to each other seems like a stupid waste. Also, we both want to decorate the same space and modify each other's placements and so on.

    We're already in a rather large FC and are happy there. We love decorating areas just like we love making outfits for our characters. We don't want to mess with the FC's house setup, but we want to play with housing on our own.

    What's the danger with letting people do that? I don't get it. One person can own the house and the other can have access - that's fine. That way, you can't sell a house, just give someone else access. As long as each person can only own one house, there's no fear of someone buying up all the houses and selling them, or selling access to them. If you need to limit it, it can be limited to only marriage partners on top of that. A bit excessive, but whatever. The biggest thing though is that the problem with housing is availability. There's a limited amount of space out there. Why can't people share? That will vastly help the fact that there are not enough plots for everyone who wants one.

    Argh, I just, I don't understand SE's decisions most of the time. They make no logical sense and are bad for everyone, themselves included. Their decisions support RMT at the expense of the players, and they limit content to a small number of players at the expense of others, both of which are against their stated goals. They're not morons, so why do they continue to act so stupidly?
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 10-21-2014 at 06:22 AM.

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
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    My fiancée and I are in very similar position. I'm not very concerned with housing, but it'd be nice to have shared access so I can keep my choco in the stable, tend to the garden when necessary, teleport to the aetheryte, help her decorate, etc. I'd be happy to be in a sort of "sub-contracted" position even, limiting my control over the estate... But alas, SE has chosen to sweep this under the rug, it seems.
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  3. #33
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    More players sharing & not eating up every plot individually would be a big win.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SalemP View Post
    well.... don't enter into an arrangement with someone unless you trust/know/like them. That's all I can say about that.
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/marriage-divorce.htm

    In America alone, half of all married couples end up getting divorced, statistically speaking. In an MMO where a lot less responsibility is taken, that number, in Eorzea, could jump to 80%. Easily.

    ...and if there is shared housing established when that divorce happens, that could be a serious problem that involves a lot of whining divorcees losing items to the other divorcee. It's easy to say "tough luck" when you're not a GM or a developer.

    I am hoping, however, that the devs think of a way to implement shared housing in just such a way that allows everyone to be happy. I just wanna make sure everyone understands what could happen if this isn't approached carefully.
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    Last edited by HakuroDK; 10-21-2014 at 08:21 AM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddaragon View Post
    Hahaha. Knowing someone and thinking you know someone aren't exactly the same thing, though. Plus people change overtime. ^^
    people don't change.
    their issues just become more and more obvious.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    ...and if there is shared housing established when that divorce happens, that could be a serious problem that involves a lot of whining divorcees losing items to the other divorcee. It's easy to say "tough luck" when you're not a GM or a developer.
    This explanation is pure BS. The same situation exists with an FC where the FC leader could kick everyone on a whim and steal the house for himself, along with the FC coffers. One person is put nominally in charge of a house, that person can't buy another house, and that person can set permissions on the house. That person can kick others off the access list on a whim. Don't trust the person you're marrying in game, or want to protect yourself? Make them buy the house with their own gil if they want ownership, or you be the one to have ownership of it.

    That is a social issue. Game design decisions are not based around social issues like that. If they were, the unexpected behavior where you can promote someone above your own rank and steal money from an FC's coffers would have been fixed by now.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    people don't change.
    their issues just become more and more obvious.
    I still think people do change. However when they do, the process is slow and steady. Most of your close relatives don't notice right away, but anyone who doesn't see you for a long time instantly notices.
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  8. #38
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    Let players settle who gets the house in the case of an in-game divorce.

    Boom easy.
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