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  1. #701
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    Just imagine what the anniversary would have been with a cash shop. No DQ, FFXI and LR fates, no Minfilia and Thancred minions, they'd have all been available at the cash shop! How many people will buy the "Huzzah!" emote when the 2nd birthday comes?

    I still can't believe there are so many people who ok with saying "yeah I'll pay more money for the things I got for free before"
    You just want to be ripped off and have no issue with it
    Hit the nail on the head.
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  2. #702
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    The only thing SE would understand clearly is subs tanking like an iron weight into the Marianas trench....

    ... but people are both too addicted to the game and too attached to the characters they've invested thousands of hours into in order to abandon it all to make a protest of that magnitude.

    And even if 10% of the subs quit, the remaining players who buy anything and everything the cash shop offers will make up the difference, and then some.
    It'd also be very silly to quit for something that doesn't affect you at all in-game.
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  3. #703
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    SE isn't really new to doing dlc / optional content, they budget out a certain amount of content to be premium. All of there console release games have a lot of optional content.

    Here is an example, have you guys played Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call? There is about 30 extra songs you can buy on the eshop. You get like 200 songs when you buy the game, SE gave away 2 dlc songs for free but now they charge 99 cents a song if you want them all its about another 30 bucks. This is basically the age of micro transactions in games. It has already been proven that a majority of people will buy the extra stuff vs the people who will quit and not use their product.
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  4. #704
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    Well, reposting what I said in another thread



    Would be nice for everyone if cash show was...

    A kicktarter/patreon kinda stuff

    Bear with me...

    1- Cash shop sells items to players
    2- Players contribute to a goal of cash (shown or not)
    3- New items are made for cash shop with those funds (a design team other than the one they have so game play content don't get delayed)
    4- Contributing players get a single exclusive item (like veteran reward but with cash shop support)
    5- Old items get discounted (till they are free/almost free)
    6- repeat

    That way shop gets funding for more MODELS and not just re-skins of items/gear, and those models can be used for other stuff/quests for everyone, and with discounts it would be nice for everyone.

    Give shop cash as a veteran reward so people can get items from shop without spending more money, and there, everyone happy
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  5. #705
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Just imagine what the anniversary would have been with a cash shop. No DQ, FFXI and LR fates, no Minfilia and Thancred minions, they'd have all been available at the cash shop! How many people will buy the "Huzzah!" emote when the 2nd birthday comes?


    Hit the nail on the head.
    Oh, I forgot you can get the mog minion and plushie for free. Totally hit the nail on the head there! Just like the minion you get for buying the soudtrack, or the minion for buying the CE copy of the game. Totally free and always has been.

    ...Really? some minions will be free, others wont. It will always be that way and always has been that way, and I don't see why that's a big deal.
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  6. #706
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    Oh, I forgot you can get the mog minion and plushie for free. Totally hit the nail on the head there! Just like the minion you get for buying the soudtrack, or the minion for buying the CE copy of the game. Totally free and always has been.

    ...Really?
    It's been discussed a thousand times in more than this thread why it's not the same thing.
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  7. #707
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    It's been discussed a thousand times in more than this thread why it's not the same thing.
    ... That makes no sense. For the mog minion, you buy the mog plushie. For the CE minion you buy the CE copy for the game.

    It's literally the same thing. You buy something, and a minion comes with it as a bonus.
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  8. #708
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    So instead of offering those past items for purchase from event NPCs during seasonal events like they had done so far, they're now offering them for real money. If that isn't greedy, I mean smart business, I don't know what is.
    Maybe i've looked in the wrong places but I haven't seen any of the older seasonal items for sale that I hadn't participated in myself. The event's items I missed aren't even listed.
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  9. #709
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    The slope.

    Sure it is just vanity items => Sure it is just a minor buff => It allows those without alot of time to get caught up it is only buffs who cares => "Now for a short time offer you can buy 1 character at Ilvl 55 for the upcoming expansion for a 1 time fee of $50!!!. Come join now and join with your friends to defend Eorzea" => They are only selling tier 1 endgame items it is not like it is hurting serious raiders. => Come get the golden chocobo mount. Flying, Swiming, +150% movement speed compaired to your standard issue chocobo. $74.99.

    SE is a corporation and those entities tend to get blinded when money comes in. More $$$ =/= Better game but many companys will argue the opposite.

    IF they want to make additional revenue how about figure out why more subs are coming to the game and fix it. Get more $$$ by getting more subs, everyone wins. This is nothing but a cash grab by SE and I 100% disapprove.

    SE can say vanity only, but from what I see around the mmo genre. That vanity term will get twisted and things will stop being vanity eventully. See if they will prove me wrong. Every other f2p mmo I played gave advantages to the people droping $100s of dollars a month over those just paying the 15 sub.
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    Last edited by Xatsh; 10-21-2014 at 06:58 AM.

  10. #710
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
    Would be nice for everyone if cash show was...

    A kicktarter/patreon kinda stuff
    Here's my issue with this-and I've seen this brought up elsewhere for other games as well - SE is a multi-million dollar company. Kickstarters (and the like) are for people/groups who DON'T already have the money and want to produce something. Why should I (in effect) donate money to SE (or any big-name company) to get something better out of my game? Which I'm already paying a monthly fee for btw. Even if they give me things (virtual things at that) for my money, it's still a multi-million dollar company asking for donations to do what they've already been doing for years and are already getting paid millions to do. And that doesn't sit well with me.
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