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  1. #681
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    IveraIvalice's Avatar
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    Ivera Ivalice
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    We live in a society where people need to get the latest phone every year because a marketing team told them they needed it. Are you that surprised?
    Yes I am. People buy anew phone because a new one comes out with new features that the old one didn't have. More powerful, more memory more features. It's a new product.

    This is not new. People are happily gonna pay them money for the same exact thing we had before for free and even the people that don't buy now have something that their subscription few doesn't get them. So they downgrade our subscription and still some have no problem with this just kuz other games have done this too.

    Getting screwed is getting screwed, I don't care who does it, I'm not gonna happily take it from all angles because it's somehow the norm on other games
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  2. #682
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
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    You're dealing with a group of gamers who are fanatical in their devotion to this development team. I expected people to rabidly back SE on their decision to water down the meaning of our Subscription cost. Doesn't mean I'll sit back and take it though. My sub is up in march. I'll play until I either get bored or it runs out whichever comes first. I refuse to pay to play and then double dip with a cash shop. F*ck that!
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  3. #683
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    ShinigamiZero's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    I still can't believe there are so many people who ok with saying "yeah I'll pay more money for the things I got for free before"
    You just want to be ripped off and have no issue with it
    It's exactly that. I don't understand why some people are so insistent in pulling their pants down and spreading their cheeks when they didn't have to before. It really baffles me.
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  4. #684
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    The sad part is actually that we won't be able to stop it at this point unless people make big riots on every server or something.
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  5. #685
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiZero View Post
    It's exactly that. I don't understand why some people are so insistent in pulling their pants down and spreading their cheeks when they didn't have to before. It really baffles me.
    You are getting extra stuff that you didn't have before ever think of it that way? They can put more money into adding more extras in the game that wouldn't of existed otherwise.
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  6. #686
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You are getting extra stuff that you didn't have before ever think of it that way? They can put more money into adding more extras in the game that wouldn't of existed otherwise.
    and then charge you for said extras!

    Everything, EVERYTHING that would have gone into the game will now go into the cash stop instead. Stop pretending that this cash shop is mysteriously going to cause them to develop more non-cash shop items or that the items that are going into the cash shop weren't going to be included into the game before the cash shop. Basically you're just paying for the items that your subscription cost should pay for.
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  7. #687
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    Black91CRX's Avatar
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    Femke Fisker
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    Yes I am. People buy anew phone because a new one comes out with new features that the old one didn't have. More powerful, more memory more features. It's a new product.
    It's still a bunch of crap you were led to believe you need. It amazes me how people will pay so much just to keep glued to social media. The world got sucker'd.
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  8. #688
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    SongJoohee's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You are getting extra stuff that you didn't have before ever think of it that way? They can put more money into adding more extras in the game that wouldn't of existed otherwise.
    Slepnir has existed in the game as a mount in beta, there was a Dev Blog a while back with a dev playing with it. He has to for Odin to work properly, as Odin takes the appearance of a player. Recently it was added back in as a proper player mount, as you can find on XIVDB as they datamined it. Slepnir was most likely going to be a rare drop from Odins Extreme Trial when it's put it in. They have cut it off to sell in the cash shop.

    With the first items in the cash shop they have, with Slepnir, already set a precedent to remove content that was going to be in the game and sell it instead. Won't be surprised if the Minions were also meant to be in the game as a seasonal reward too like Minifilia and Thancred were. Now whenever they add items to the cash shop, the first question will be, were these actually taken out of the game to be sold instead of being obtainable in the game?
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  9. #689
    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Saskia Sinwolf
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    Sargatanas
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    I'm just waiting for them to add Hairstyles to the cash shop cause they know people will pay for those.
    Makes sense why they only add a couple in every patch tho, they want to sell the others they've made cause they know ppl want them.
    Gonna have to rethink if this is worth spending more time on this game or if I should only sub for main storyline >_<
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  10. #690
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    IveraIvalice's Avatar
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    Ivera Ivalice
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    It's still a bunch of crap you were led to believe you need. It amazes me how people will pay so much just to keep glued to social media. The world got sucker'd.
    Wether people were tempted into buying it or not it is a new product with new features that made it different and better then the previous one that they otherwise would not have any other way. No ones handing you a phone every year for free.

    In this case we would normally get these items at no extra cost

    This isn't even comparable. One is an entirely new product that has been upgraded and you would not have because it's a single purchase item.
    These items in game were obtainable in game, included in our monthly subscription and nothing is changed about them.

    The point of being tempted into buying either a phone or these items has nothing to do with this. This argument is based on facts. The simple fact that we had something before and now we have to pay more to get what we had access to before
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