Cash shop confirmed

[SongJoohee]

You are getting extra stuff that you didn't have before ever think of it that way? They can put more money into adding more extras in the game that wouldn't of existed otherwise.

Slepnir has existed in the game as a mount in beta, there was a Dev Blog a while back with a dev playing with it. He has to for Odin to work properly, as Odin takes the appearance of a player. Recently it was added back in as a proper player mount, as you can find on XIVDB as they datamined it. Slepnir was most likely going to be a rare drop from Odins Extreme Trial when it's put it in. They have cut it off to sell in the cash shop.

With the first items in the cash shop they have, with Slepnir, already set a precedent to remove content that was going to be in the game and sell it instead. Won't be surprised if the Minions were also meant to be in the game as a seasonal reward too like Minifilia and Thancred were. Now whenever they add items to the cash shop, the first question will be, were these actually taken out of the game to be sold instead of being obtainable in the game?

[Tupsi]

Slepnir has existed in the game as a mount in beta,

It has NEVER EXISTED AS AN OBTAINABLE ITEM. EVER. The blog you mentioned stated specifically to not pay attention to it because it was just playing with dev tools. Try as you might, you can't pretend that SE is taking content out of the game lol. Good try though. Did you know? The horse and Odin are two separate entities for programming purposes?

(Something else they explained, by the way.)

[Alef321]

Slepnir has existed in the game as a mount in beta, there was a Dev Blog a while back with a dev playing with it. He has to for Odin to work properly, as Odin takes the appearance of a player. Recently it was added back in as a proper player mount, as you can find on XIVDB as they datamined it. Slepnir was most likely going to be a rare drop from Odins Extreme Trial when it's put it in. They have cut it off to sell in the cash shop.

With the first items in the cash shop they have, with Slepnir, already set a precedent to remove content that was going to be in the game and sell it instead. Won't be surprised if the Minions were also meant to be in the game as a seasonal reward too like Minifilia and Thancred were. Now whenever they add items to the cash shop, the first question will be, were these actually taken out of the game to be sold instead of being obtainable in the game?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^all of this.

[Tupsi]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^all of this.

None of that because people keep forgetting the one obvious thing:

If Sleipnir was meant for us, it would have been added to the ODIN MANTLE loot list, not only at launch, but sometime over the last year and no, someone can't use the "it was meant for cash shop" excuse because the only reason people knew of his existence was the DEV TOOL TEST as per the blog and the XIVDB datamining.

[KillyBamp]

None of that because people keep forgetting the one obvious thing:

If Sleipnir was meant for us, it would have been added to the ODIN MANTLE loot list, not only at launch, but sometime over the last year

Nope. Stuff gets added to existing loot tables all the time, to keep content relevant. Just because it wasn't added at the start, or in the last year, doesn't mean it wasn't intended to be added at some other point later - or more aptly, as a reward to the up coming Odin battle. The whole point of subbed games is to keep adding content over time to keep the subs coming in.

...someone can't use the "it was meant for cash shop" excuse because the only reason people knew of his existence was the DEV TOOL TEST as per the blog and the XIVDB datamining.

Exactly, so you recognize the fact that this was already in game, and cut out to be fed back to us for extra profit.

.....the same things keep being said over and over again, by the same people in some cases. It's just going nowhere.

Not necessarily, Yoshi P *apparently* announced at the London fan fest that the cash shop minions were not going to be cash shop exclusive - A decision possibly made as a result of the 150+ page backlash that the cash shop launch has received, wishful thinking maybe, but not unfeasible.

[Riviere]

Not necessarily, Yoshi P *apparently* announced at the London fan fest that the cash shop minions were not going to be cash shop exclusive - A decision possibly made as a result of the 150+ page backlash that the cash shop launch has received, wishful thinking maybe, but not unfeasible.

IIRC, the quote was that future minions won't be cash shop exclusive, not that cash shop minions won't be cash shop exclusive.

[Fellisin]

Not necessarily, Yoshi P *apparently* announced at the London fan fest that the cash shop minions were not going to be cash shop exclusive - A decision possibly made as a result of the 150+ page backlash that the cash shop launch has received, wishful thinking maybe, but not unfeasible.

What the announcement most likely means is that "minions" will not be exclusively available from the cash shop in future, and that there will always be minions released in the game to gain through game play as well as the cash shop exclusive minions which can be purchased.

[Melinabean0]

Not necessarily, Yoshi P *apparently* announced at the London fan fest that the cash shop minions were not going to be cash shop exclusive - A decision possibly made as a result of the 150+ page backlash that the cash shop launch has received, wishful thinking maybe, but not unfeasible.

My original comment, after my own opinion, was about how the fighting and insults between each other is the problem. Stating opinions and debate is great when put out there in a respectful way and would still have the same intended effect, without it causing this massive divide between everyone as each side calls the other stupid. I know that not everyone is doing that, and that's awesome. This particular thread has calmed down for the most part but it is still happening in other threads.

I in no way meant that we shouldn't be expressing our own views on the matter, or that they would never have any effect on the situation, just that maybe we should be a little nicer to each other and stop throwing insults around. Instead, have some civil conversation!