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  1. #51
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    ItaruKarin's Avatar
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    I'taru Karin
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    I know that I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I don't get why I should have to farm for something in the first place. It's no fun, no challenge, just a dumb painful waste of hours. I don't say that I am dedicating myself to farming or whatever, as some people like to say, but even the 3-4 hours I dedicated to this seemed like a complete waste when there are so many ways to have fun in this game. If they up the drop rate to more believable levels, I may think about doing it, but still... Terrible quest design.

    I did get the ATMA of the scorpion on the very first FATE I did though, without even trying since it was the gentlemen's zombies of the Hildebrand quest >.>'
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    Last edited by ItaruKarin; 10-21-2014 at 12:06 AM.

  2. #52
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    Coatl Days
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I think they should have made you instantly get an atma after completing 80ish fates or so. That way while you could get lucky, you will never fall behind for being unlucky.

    But doubling the rate works too I guess.
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  3. #53
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    Sora Burakku
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    I wonder what the base percent is that they are "doubling" because Doubling 1% is only 2%, not a huge difference and basically no point.
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  4. #54
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItaruKarin View Post
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    It needs to have some sort of length to gate it, considering it's part of an end-game weapon. The difference in Atma is that there's no tangible process that can be realistically controlled by how much time you invest into it (versus grinding for animus/novus tomes, or nexus light). Another issue that compounds onto it is how "old" that step of the relic is at that point; every other upgrade at that ilvl has been delegated to being catch-up (such as UAT and sands of time, if it wasn't enough they were made more accessible on the release of 2.3), while atma was left untouched for it's while the reward being weaker than the former upgrades. It wasn't the case for zenith back then, it had it's gate removed with the introduction of soldierly tomestones and it was available as a "catch-up" weapon at that point.
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  5. #55
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    Kiara's Avatar
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Masamune
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    I'm glad they're increasing Atma Drop Rate, but they really should have put in a BETTER System, and this was the chance to do it, but they didn't. Something like:

    1. Increase Percentage(%) Chance for Atma Stone drop for Every FATE in the Zone you've Completed, Until it Finally Drops.

    Let's say the starting % Drop Rate is 1%. If you do a FATE and nothing drops, Square should add, say, +1% to your chance, so the NEXT FATE you do now has 2% chance. So at the most, you'd have to do 99 FATEs in the zone (+1% x 99 tries) to finally get your Atma Stone (if you had the worst luck).

    This allows Yoshi P to keep that "Random Number Generator" / "Lottery" feel and grind (ugh), while providing a safety (and sanity) net for Players. So if you have bad luck, at least eventually you'll get the Atma to drop within a reasonable amount of time. The Actual # can be balanced to whatever feels fair (+2%, +5%, etc.).


    2. Allow Any Player with an Atma, Animus or Novus version of the Weapon doing FATEs to still get a chance at Atma Drops.

    This will *increase* the number of Players participating in FATEs around the world, since Animus / Novus players will want to farm for Alexandrite drop chances, *and* can work on their 2nd, 3rd+ Jobs' Atma Stones.

    It's a Win-Win for everyone, and brings people back to doing FATEs a bit more than it is now.

    Dev Team, please consider this fix. Thanks.
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  6. #56
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    Seif Dincht
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    I still think it's dumb alex and atma only drop with that one phase of the weapon only.

    It gives no reason at all to take part in Fates that you pass by. Several of those never get completed because a mass of players is required.
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  7. #57
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Cactuar
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    I have to second this, as somebody who has spent 12 hours in one of the zones and not gotten the atma there (before giving up on it), I'm very happy to see that they are increasing the drop rate. I don't mind a little bit of a grind but watching people get 1-2 full sets in the time it takes me to get 4 atma is very discouraging.
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  8. #58
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    Seraphima Cyngosa
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    Don't understand why they can't be like beastmen tribe fates, where the item drops regardless. Of level, job.
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  9. #59
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    Squa11_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Kaya Yuuna
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I still think it's dumb alex and atma only drop with that one phase of the weapon only.

    It gives no reason at all to take part in Fates that you pass by. Several of those never get completed because a mass of players is required.
    Alexandrite drops with novus as well now . . . .
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  10. #60
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    Shalltear Bloodfallen
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    If you were serious about Ninja, you'd already have the Atmas >_>



    Ahead of the curve (ever so slightly).
    Well, I'm not that far ahead considering I still need 64 more Alexandrites (more like 54... but I'm keeping those Allied Seals for now) but at least I got lucky enough to have gotten all the Atma after only 2 days of Fate-farming for them :3

    Still gotta get that Oil and other stuff though meh ><
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