Cash shop confirmed

[KirakunAUS]

The problem is this doesn't work because we're already giving them money to make these items with our sub... even if no one were to buy them, they'd just sit at the cash shop accumulating virtual dust, it's not like SE would lose anything. They have no reason to get rid of the cash shop and put them in the game even if it turned out to be a total bust, because they win either way, they just win a little more if people buy them.


It depends on your definition of advantage. Role players who buy vanity items are at an advantage, people who love to do contests have more outfits to pick from... not everything is about stats. And this is assuming they won't be tradeable/sellable, I'm not sure if they've specified it.

I don't see the problem. Let it collect virtual dust.
This is not some pokemon game where you need to collect them all and be a master pokemon trainer.

This is not about P2W.
This is not about "just not buying it"
This is about content which would have had an avenue to being obtained in game being removed and sold in the cash shop, like the Odin mount.

Sorry. Was this written in stone that this can be obtained in game.

[Moqi]

I don't see the problem. Let it collect virtual dust.

You said "let the wallet do the talking", but there's no talking to be had. "Don't like it, don't buy it" doesn't send any kind of message becuase we're funding this wether we buy them or not.

[KirakunAUS]

You said "let the wallet do the talking", but there's no talking to be had. "Don't like it, don't buy it" doesn't send any kind of message becuase we're funding this wether we buy them or not.

My point stands.
If you don't like how this is being manage. Stop subbing. Let the wallet do the talking.

Why do I say that? Yes, we are funding them. There is no way we can confirm the cost spent on.
If content keeps getting delayed or decrease or even the quality of content deteriorates...
Cash items such as minions and mount however, keeps on increasing, I would be pissed cause that shows funds are being misused.

I would clearly unsub this game myself.

[Moqi]

If you don't like how this is being manage. Stop subbing. Let the wallet do the talking.

I am. I have still around 3 months left that I have already paid for and then I'm gone. But I love this game and I'm sad to leave, these forums are feedback to the devs and this is mine. I've got nothing else to say.

[Codek]

I am. I have still around 3 months left that I have already paid for and then I'm gone. But I love this game and I'm sad to leave, these forums are feedback to the devs and this is mine. I've got nothing else to say.

Your not alone, I ran from SWTOR for similar implementation. I think I might hold on a little bit longer to see how this turns out in this case.

Soon enough, I expect to see in game advertisements for the shop and that will be my breaking point personally.

[Mardel]

Your not alone, I ran from SWTOR for similar implementation. I think I might hold on a little bit longer to see how this turns out in this case.

Soon enough, I expect to see in game advertisements for the shop and that will be my breaking point personally.

The only time they've advertised anything is on their launcher. They don't advertise within the game itself, with stuff like: "Go to mogstation.com to buy X." That's because for them it would a big lore no-no.

[Codek]

The only time they've advertised anything is on their launcher. They don't advertise within the game itself, with stuff like: "Go to mogstation.com to buy X." That's because for them it would a big lore no-no.

You would think, but Marketing would see a huge gain for wanting to implement the shop into the game client itself and avoid the hassle of having people go to a website. Once the the shop is embedded within the client, it becomes really easy to add in indicators that can easily direct you towards making purchases.

It's very much inside the scope of what a company will do for extra income.

[Magis]

The only time they've advertised anything is on their launcher. They don't advertise within the game itself, with stuff like: "Go to mogstation.com to buy X." That's because for them it would a big lore no-no.

FFXIV loves to shove interfaces infront of the player and break immersion... lore be damned. One glaring example is the Duty Finder. Why can't I walk into the dungeon? I literally can't enter it unless I both a) Use the system, b) meet it's requirements (player count, job setup, etc).

[TheMunimai]

I am. I have still around 3 months left that I have already paid for and then I'm gone. But I love this game and I'm sad to leave, these forums are feedback to the devs and this is mine. I've got nothing else to say.

I really don't understand what the issue is.

The cash shop is for vanity purposes only containing past event rewards, some new minions and a mount.

From a quick lodestone search, I can see you don't have the windup minions from the soundtracks. Did you go premium for the moogle suit? will you be purchasing the art book or delivery moogle for the minion at all?

You also don't have the coeurl mount either.

You have none of these things that have never impacted your gaming experience, and cost money to obtain by purchasing additional items or collectors edition BUT as soon as they create a cash shop for people to purchase mounts and minions from, you decide you are going to leave?

Why?! How does it differ?

[Sho86]

Why?! How does it differ?

Cash shop opens a huge can of worms that can be a constantly changing hellride based on how they see fit.
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My main problem is what cash shop openings always lead too. They start small, then grow, and grow, and grow. "Vanity" can be a very loosely used term and expand to a ton of content
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It's anyone's guess as to how large it'll grow and how much they milk it, but I don't believe any company - SE or otherwise - when they throw promises out. Housing could be an easy example of promises.

We really need to condense our threads here lol