How am I meant to level with a friend now?

[Forbin]

i'm having a blast in a XP party right now grinding it out.. I actually enjoy it. WAY better than solo grinding.. have gotten close to 70K SP.. @ 330-410 SP a kill.. =/ bunch of whiners...

Today I have done Behest, Leve's, SP Grinding in a group, City Main Quest, City Side Quests and gone from 15-20 no problem.. sounds like you guys want everything handed to you.

[Warp]

i'm having a blast in a XP party right now grinding it out.. I actually enjoy it. WAY better than solo grinding.. have gotten close to 70K SP.. @ 330-410 SP a kill.. =/ bunch of whiners...

Today I have done Behest, Leve's, SP Grinding in a group, City Main Quest, City Side Quests and gone from 15-20 no problem.. sounds like you guys want everything handed to you.

Sorry, I don't really find mindlessly killing 200 mobs a blast anymore. Good for you though! I guarantee you that the majority of players they are hoping to target with the re-launch won't be wanting to spend hours looking for group and mindlessly grinding mobs. That was popular in 1999.

It needs to change.

[LuxLex]

Sorry, I don't really find mindlessly killing 200 mobs a blast anymore. Good for you though! I guarantee you that the majority of players they are hoping to target with the re-launch won't be wanting to spend hours looking for group and mindlessly grinding mobs. That was popular in 1999.

It needs to change.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

What the people blindly cheerleading this game fail to understand is that if mindlessly grinding was the way to success - XIV wouldn't have failed so hard at launch (since it had plenty of mindless grinding then, as now).

[Jynx]

Sorry, I don't really find mindlessly killing 200 mobs a blast anymore. Good for you though! I guarantee you that the majority of players they are hoping to target with the re-launch won't be wanting to spend hours looking for group and mindlessly grinding mobs. That was popular in 1999.

It needs to change.

Pray tell. What is fun leveling in a MMO then? Gaining SP for everytime you teabag someone or something?

The grind isn't always meant to be fun, it just needs to be rewarding.

[LuxLex]

Pray tell. What is fun leveling in a MMO then? Gaining SP for everytime you teabag someone or something?

The grind isn't always meant to be fun, it just needs to be rewarding.

Leveling shouldn't be 90 per cent of what you do in an MMO. And in an MMO like XIV where most of what there is to do is level, they ought to try to dress it up a bit, instead of nerfing the content that tried to dress it up, and implementing a "kill 500 puks to level" system.

[Warp]

Pray tell. What is fun leveling in a MMO then? Gaining SP for everytime you teabag someone or something?

The grind isn't always meant to be fun, it just needs to be rewarding.

Why even bring up the teabag thing? Grow up.

Depends what kind of grind. Mindlessy killing the same mobs over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Fun? Not a chance. Good luck trying to sell that game to the audience that SE NEEDS in order for this game not to get shut down.

There are a quite a few very popular MMOs that have a rewarding, lore-filled, exciting, content-rich leveling process.

[Forbin]

Why even bring up the teabag thing? Grow up.

Depends what kind of grind. Mindlessy killing the same mobs over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. Fun? Not a chance. Good luck trying to sell that game to the audience that SE NEEDS in order for this game not to get shut down.

There are a quite a few very popular MMOs that have a rewarding, lore-filled, exciting, content-rich leveling process.

Thats the same thing people said about FFXI... 10 Years Later'd it's still going very strong.

[LuxLex]

Thats the same thing people said about FFXI... 10 Years Later'd it's still going very strong.

yeah, because the devs decided to make the game more fun when they saw people leaving the game in droves.

[Dubont]

yeah, because the devs decided to make the game more fun when they saw people leaving the game in droves.

By "fun" you mean "easy" with the release of Abyssea...and that was still...what..8 years after the game's release? Your point is invalid. Also, at least acknowledge my rebuttal to your statement about FFXIV being a longer grind than the GOOD FFXI..

[Forbin]

yeah, because the devs decided to make the game more fun when they saw people leaving the game in droves.

Riiiiiight.... you are talking out of your ass.. lol