Very conflicted about the cash shop...

[Dwill]

There's millions of players subbing for this game and more from
servers transfers, the potion thing, more character slot thing and retainers.
They have enough. This is just being greedy.

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/ar_2013_01en.pdf

Look at page 01 and then tell me how they have enough again ?

[Seraphe]

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/ar_2013_01en.pdf

Look at page 01 and then tell me how they have enough again ?

You do realize that there are multiple ways to make those numbers seem bad/good depending on business strategy?

[Dwill]

You do realize that there are multiple ways to make those numbers seem bad/good depending on business strategy?

Yes, because partaking in financial statement fraud is a sure way to attract potential investors. And their CEO in 2013 being fired was probably all part of that strategy as well. Also their shareholders meetings and multiple interviews stating they were losing a lot of money (138$ millions in 2013) was just a clever plot to trick people.

The stuff you people against this come up with is actually pretty crazy.

Of course development costs money. That is why we're paying monthly for it.

Additional content development requires additional means of funding. And if you think your sub is only used to sustain this game, you'll be pretty disappointed.

[Seraphe]

Yes, because partaking in financial statement fraud is a sure way to attract potential investors.

There are times for a business when you do not look for investors. "We're not making money. We're losing money. Next year: We raised profits by a couple hundred percents"

[Dwill]

There are times for a business when you do not look for investors. "We're not making money. We're losing money. Next year: We raised profits by a couple hundred percents"

Do you even understand the implications of the statement you just made or do you just make a random crazy conspiracy statement based on reading 5 minutes of internet information about finance and because hating on companies is the cool thing to do ?

[Seraphe]

Do you even understand the implications of the statement you just made or do you just make a random crazy conspiracy statement based on reading 5 minutes of internet information about finance and because hating on companies is the cool thing to do ?

Do some research

[Muzetta]

Let's complain about paying for completely optional things, yay!

You're NOT forced to pay for any of this, it's purely vanity and thus not necessary to do ANYTHING in the game. Yet you people complain anyway. *sigh* They also clearly stated it will not be pay2win. If they ever change their thoughts on that, THEN you have a reason to complain about the cash shop. But until then, nope.

[Edli]

Let's complain about paying for completely optional things, yay!

You're NOT forced to pay for any of this, it's purely vanity and thus not necessary to do ANYTHING in the game. Yet you people complain anyway. *sigh* They also clearly stated it will not be pay2win. If they ever change their thoughts on that, THEN you have a reason to complain about the cash shop. But until then, nope.

Wth does pay2win even means. Win what exactly. People like collecting stuff, glamouring. There are people farming a primal for ages till they get the mount. Wouldn't he technically win when he gets it? This is not an esport game. Vanity is part of the game and people are after it as much as everything else.

[Orbiaus]

It's only vanity.... actually just saying that means you have no clue as to why people play a mmorpg. I like to get vanity items like mounts, gear from older dungeons to glamour. This means more to me than just stats alone and I also like to EARN these items. I do content for it, dungeons, ex primals and beast tribes. It isn't only vanity. It is the reason many do content and just buying items takes any achievement away and just makes it "cba obtaining this item, i'm just going to buy it".

[Niqote]

Wth does pay2win even means. Win what exactly. People like collecting stuff, glamouring. There are people farming a primal for ages till they get the mount. Wouldn't he technically win when he gets it? This is not an esport game. Vanity is part of the game and people are after it as much as everything else.

Pay to Win refers to Cash shops that provide things that will help you advance in the game such as experience potions, tickets to automatically level up or keys to chest etc.

Yoshida clearly stated our FFXIV cash shop will be Vanity only so we do not need to worry about such stupid things ^_^