Optional item shop oct 28 announced

[Sho86]

With "Ifs" you could change the world. Good try with the made up scenario though.

So you rather go the titanic way with iceburgs (to be blunt)? the "ifs" are based on past experiences with other games. People are not only speaking out because they simply don't like vanity cash shops; its because of what it brings over time in any game. Plus in -this- game it does affect more. Crafters currently craft vanity gear, well so long to that idea.

[Dwill]

So you rather go the titanic way with iceburgs (to be blunt)? the "ifs" are based on past experiences with other games. People are not only speaking out because they simply don't like vanity cash shops; its because of what it brings over time in any game. Plus in -this- game it does affect more. Crafters currently craft vanity gear, well so long to that idea.

Except that to my knowledge (I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if you can prove otherwise), there never was a max level boost at the same time as a new class release.

[Cynfael]

@__@ I'm really disappointed that they made Odin's mount a cash shop item... Not everyone can afford to spend more money monthly. Right now, everyone has a chance of obtaining items, but with the cash shop, only well-off people will have access. It feels like a really low blow from SE and a slap to the face.

Because it takes a lot of disposable income to afford cash shop vanity items...?

I don't get the part where this whole thing is supposed to be unfair or the part where one low subscription fee entitles the playerbase access to any and all future FFXIV-related content at no additional cost. Additional vanity items as optional purchases do not any kind of paywall make.

[Prototype909]

I can't believe people are defending this, we already pay a sub-fee and now they're going down the road of locking items (Even if they're for vanity only, -for now-) behind a further pay wall. How does this not bother people? This is the type of thing that's acceptable in F2P titles, not a subscription model.

[Musashidon]

I can't believe people are defending this, we already pay a sub-fee and now they're going down the road of locking items (Even if they're for vanity only, -for now-) behind a further pay wall. How does this not bother people? This is the type of thing that's acceptable in F2P titles, not a subscription model.

yes it is. you pay to play, that's all.

[Mardel]

It doesn't bother me because a lot of vanity/minion obsessed people might be buying gil (3rd party) to get items as opposed to earning gil themselves and supporting crafters ect.. this means it's less draw for gil buyers to buy gil when they interesting vanity item they want is in the shop. Plus as for past event items being purchasable if someone really wants something from previous events (I missed previous Halloween) they buy them.

I won't buy the old ghost costume, think it looks dumb and I don't collect minions.

[Cynfael]

I can't believe people are defending this, we already pay a sub-fee and now they're going down the road of locking items (Even if they're for vanity only, -for now-) behind a further pay wall. How does this not bother people? This is the type of thing that's acceptable in F2P titles, not a subscription model.

The assumption there is that content is being locked. While this indeed may be true in a sense (not that I personally care if it is), it could also be that the cosmetics players buy from the cash shop now in turn fund future cash shop exclusives.

Or they could just abandon the idea of making more money from their business without affecting the core experience and not offer anything extra at all.

Basically no one who isn't working in this area at SE really knows what is going on or what will happen, so wild assumptions don't help. The shop is clearly going to be a thing, so let's wait and see.

[Tupsi]

Just because some of you dont care if its just vanity doesnt make it right. For some players minions, mounts, and vanity are more important to them than end game content. Its really no different than if they added final coil but if you wanted it you had to pay an extra $15 to gain access to it.

Incorrect. You want to do coil and you had to pay $15 to access it? That's called an Add-on or Expansion pack. They know some people will buy vanity items, and will pay for it. I bet if you use a smartphone there's some games you probably play you gladly ended up paying the $1-$6 for because...*gasp* you wanted it and they knew you would pay for it. You can't compare content access with vanity items.

And everyone who keeps saying: "but so in so in a sub game"..maybe next time don't support a WoW "clone"? Beause Blizzard did it for yeeeeeeears.

[Alberel]

I won't buy the old ghost costume, think it looks dumb and I don't collect minions.

So you just another in this thread that, because THEY don't care for the items, don't give a damn about everyone that DOES care for those items. So selfish.

[Mardel]

So you just another in this thread that, because THEY don't care for the items, don't give a damn about everyone that DOES care for those items. So selfish.

You totally didn't read my:

It doesn't bother me because a lot of vanity/minion obsessed people might be buying gil (3rd party) to get items as opposed to earning gil themselves and supporting crafters ect.. this means it's less draw for gil buyers to buy gil

But please try to read again