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  1. #51
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Seriously an official micro-transactions shop has no place in a sub-based game, the whole "pure vanity cash shop" belongs to b2p games that don't charge you a monthly sub, because they do make a lot of money off vanity, but this company wants both the money from vanity AND the sub money, it doesn't work like that, that's way too much greed.

    But using people's arguments here, just make it p2w, since more money for SE is always a good thing for you huh?

    VIP pass to bypass all coil limits, all tele destinations free, new recipes could be sold in the CS instead of added for free, the housing area of Ishgard could be exclusive for players with VIP status, I mean none of this makes you stronger so who cares? More money for SE is always a good thing, huh?
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  2. #52
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Here is the big kicker. Once you buy the mount, thats it! its not a re-occuring fee. So you can save up for it if it is so important to your gaming experience. Do you people not have Christmas or Birthdays? While typing away on your computers and/or cellphones?

    And I love the "Way too much greed" for an international company who throws fan festivals (rental and setup fees are on their bankroll) in three different countries. Yeah, they are greedy.
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  3. #53
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    Heskett's Avatar
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    Mili Brand
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    As a collector, every item is necessary. Part of my fun is collecting as many items in game as I can.

    It's hilarious that you think I'm the greedy one here, and not the S-E double dipping on top of their subscription fee and game/expansion/character service sales.
    But wouldn't a TRUE collector dig deep into their pockets for all the things if they really wanted them badly?
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  4. #54
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    Black91CRX's Avatar
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    Femke Fisker
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    We've paid our subscription, always thought that mean't we'd already bought it.
    You could spend a lifetime trying to get some of the rare rng items in this game. Time = money. Your buying it either way. This just gives people options.
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  5. #55
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    If you don't like it, quit. But good luck finding another MMO that doesn't do this. Hell even *that other MMO* offers optional mounts and services for real money.
    It's just business, and it's completely optional. If it's not profitable, they won't do it.
    And I would REALLY like someone to explain how a freakin' horse affects your enjoyment of the game?
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  6. #56
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    PotatoTree's Avatar
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    Feel somewhat let down by this. The subscription model with no cash shop was one of the major reasons I stuck with this game from 1.0 launch.
    100% this. Not having a cash shop was one of the reasons I played this game in the first place :c
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  7. #57
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    XgungraveX's Avatar
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    i remember a thread couples months back that there was people complain about square charging extra for retainers, which had no impact on the game whats so ever and neither will this.
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  8. #58
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    I consider content to be actual gameplay, not optional caracter customization. Some people seem to have a problem understanding that not everyone needs to have absolutely everything in the game.
    Some people also have a problem understanding that different people enjoy the game for different things. Did you know there are people that enjoy collecting vanity items? *Gasp* I know, someone who plays for a different reason than you. But as long as the new cash shop doesn't impact what YOU play the game for it's all good right? So selfish.
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  9. #59
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    WizardShotTheFood's Avatar
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    Taba'sae Kason
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    i am posting in this trainwreck simply to say that i was there that day

    EDIT: Also to point and laugh at everyone whining about cosmetic items.
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  10. #60
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Optional. Harms no one. It is no naive at all, it is the truth..
    Since no one else is explaining it, I'll bother to do so. All the content created for the cash shop (or literally just ripped from the current game) COULD have just been put in the game for absolutely free of charge. You could've, very easily, had access to it through the game in 2.4 or 2.5. However, instead of doing that, they are selling those items in the cash shop. What people don't understand is that this game is not even budgeted nearly as high as the sub count is currently - they are making an INSANE amount of profit out of this game by using their initial set budget and the rest of it goes straight in SE's pockets. Not only that, they are SO incredibly cheap that they have the balls to sell things not available in game in a cash shop. Yes, it is vanity, good for you and your basic understanding of the English language - however, just because something is a cosmetic item doesn't mean that it should be paid for when you are already paying the company MONTHLY to produce this game AND the models they are putting on the cash shop. I have literally already bought all those items by paying my monthly sub, I should NOT have to pay for something AGAIN that I have literally funded. You are NOT paying for just access to the servers, you and all the other subscribers are funding this MMO. Our money is meant to make this game better, eliminate the NEED for a cash shop or to go F2P. I don't know if your parents pay this sub but some of us actually have grown up and realize the value of money. I am paying a 15$ sub every month and I expect that I get all the content in the game, not have some of it pulled out from it and thrown into a cash shop where I'll have to pay more money for it - that is greedy as hell and any defense of it is laughable.

    Also, I know there are going to be many of them, so I'd just like to take a second to laugh at all the people who will inevitably say "Using a cash shop is good business practice, they'll make more money!". I'm sorry, friend, but do you work for SE? Are you an employee of SE? Would you donate all your money to SE and live on the streets to support the company because apparently your consumer rights aren't important and they can strip you of all your cash since it's "good business practice"? No? Then maybe you should consider thinking about how their business practices affect you and your wallet, not how rich you can make SE. Pretending like you have some sort of business degree and sitting up on your imaginary high horse isn't contributing anything to the discussion at all, and it's frankly pathetic to read those types of posts. Please just realize that you are a consumer, not an employee of SE.
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