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  1. #591
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    Firon Veleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuxLex View Post
    Man, I am not saying leves are great. I am saying the last thing this game needed to do was make leves crappier and add more grind.
    Listen what i'm asking is whats the difference between spending 5 hrs doing leves and 5 hrs grinding mobs? You are still grinding mobs is all i'm saying
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  2. #592
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    Patricia Lanvaldear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    What i know is whats the difference between grinding leves and open world mobs or grinding raids please tell me the difference, you are just masking the grind is all
    The human condition is what makes them different. I mean, hey... we could just eat pepperoni pizza 3 meals a day every day and take supplement pills for the rest of our nutrients, that's no different than a variety of foods, right?
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  3. #593
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    they need to add chocobos so i can grind on raising them
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  4. #594
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    The human condition is what makes them different. I mean, hey... we could just eat pepperoni pizza 3 meals a day every day and take supplement pills for the rest of our nutrients, that's no different than a variety of foods, right?
    you still didn't answer my question tho you just used some stupid apology that doesn't make sense...OK one more tell....me...the...difference.
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  5. #595
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    If that flew over your head, I don't think I can explain it to you in a way you'd understand, sorry.
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  6. #596
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    If you were offended, guess that it explain a lot. Yeah, learn some math. Unless you play 24/7 and have people providing mats shards 24/7 and you click 60.000 times each class to get to lvl 50. You can't get to lvl 50 in all classes in less than a year without some form of cheat. And I forgot kill 30.000 mobs for each class. Yeah, your free time doesn't add up my friend. We americans are lazy, if you were Chinese and living in a LAN I would believe you, just maybe.
    If you do the math. Not some stupid retarded thing you mentioned you'd realise this:

    Total SP Required to hit 50 on all classes = 33,860,850

    33,860,850 / 306 = 110k SP per day average.

    I could (pre patch) EASILY get 110k SP lol And more often than not a lot more.

    I could do a set of leves for about 100k SP.
    I could then do various synths for 100k SP,

    My current alch synth gives me 760SP thats only 131 synths taking about 3.2 hours at a 90s/synth.

    That would net me 200k in a Day. Which split between the classes is the hit of Fatigue. Thats playing about 6-7 hours? Say 3.2hrs crafting and 3hrs leves and another hour for wasted walking and talking.

    A lot more play A LOT more than that.

    But now its less than that lol.
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  7. #597
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    Ayaka Tranquility
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    Balmung
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    Having mobs chase you would be a very stupid idea, and hard to do as the zones are seamless and very damn large. It worked (though annoying) in FFXI because zones weren't miles in length.
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  8. #598
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    dont forget having to eat and go to the bathroom...that takes time
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  9. #599
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    you still didn't answer my question tho you just used some stupid apology that doesn't make sense...OK one more tell....me...the...difference.
    You kill different monsters making it less monotonous and you get a gil reward and faction points to spend on faction leves.
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  10. #600
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    i would still like for more party play and i had fun in 11 with some partys but might be weird in this game...1 thing they could do is just add another form of some kinda behest and more instance raid type deals which they said there going to...i think this will even it out. but its still kinda like a bland blah and WHYY right now.
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