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  1. #11
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Well, since you mentioned this earlier... one thing that I like is that I can, actually, split heal with them macros. Taking advantange of that different cooldown: while I'm casting physic/adlo, target another person and push the button again when embrace is almost off CD and it will go on them.

    Same when DPSing. While you're casting Bio II or miasma, or waiting on the GCD from bio or aero, push the button and your fairy will heal the person, but you can safely stay in cleric.

    But honestly, I haven't found a need to split heal very often, at least not manually. If it's damage that isn't at risk of killing the DPS and won't be repeating again soon, Eos/Selene auto healing is sufficient. If it's not, then most often I want to bring my full healing power to bear--that means both an adlo and embrace, perhaps preceded by or following a lustrate. Yeah, the cooldowns are different, but you can push the button when embrace comes off CD too.

    Levi EX and ramuh EX solotank are the exceptions to this so I do, as mentioned, use a slightly different setup for those. But most of the time, I've found it more of an advantage to focus healing, and get the fairy precasting, than to split heal. And when I do need to split heal, I still can.

    I guess I should mention that I do have unmacro'd embrace on my main healing hotbar. But, at least to me, most of the time it just doesn't seem necessary. I can respect that not everyone sees it that way, however.

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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 10-17-2014 at 06:27 AM. Reason: typo

  2. #12
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Edit: Nvm, the macroing is making me crazy. I think I have it working now. Maybe.
    Edit again: I definitely don't. If anyone knows how to make Embrace for target and target's target work in the same macro, I'd love to hear about it. The fairy will default to casting on herself if a party member is selected.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 10-17-2014 at 06:58 AM.

  3. #13
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    It's hard to say what needs changed without knowing what you're using. Full disclosure, I haven't messed with macroing much, but as I understand it "target's target" isn't going to work if you're targeting a party member. If you're targeted on the enemy, <tt> should be the tank.

    I think to single macro it you want:
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>

    This should cast Embrace on your target (i.e. a player in your party if you're selecting them), or if you're targeted on the enemy Embrace on their target (i.e. the person with the highest hate, hopefully the tank).
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by point09micron View Post
    It's hard to say what needs changed without knowing what you're using. Full disclosure, I haven't messed with macroing much, but as I understand it "target's target" isn't going to work if you're targeting a party member. If you're targeted on the enemy, <tt> should be the tank.

    I think to single macro it you want:
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>

    This should cast Embrace on your target (i.e. a player in your party if you're selecting them), or if you're targeted on the enemy Embrace on their target (i.e. the person with the highest hate, hopefully the tank).
    This doesn't work properly. The fairy will default to healing herself if the macro's first target is invalid, regardless of which order you chose.

    Hence my frustration in my earlier post :P
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    This doesn't work properly. The fairy will default to healing herself if the macro's first target is invalid, regardless of which order you chose.

    Hence my frustration in my earlier post :P
    Since your original post didn't include the macro you were using, the problem you're having wasn't clear.

    Have you tested and verified that they each work separately as intended? If <t> isn't a player it should default to her, just like if you try to Cure/Physick a monster it will heal you instead. <tt> should only work if you're targeted on an engaged mob, or on a player that's targetting another player. I guess it would also default to either her or you if not. Not in game right now so I can't play around with it.
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  6. #16
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    Noah Violet
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Attack/Aether bar with a few emergency heals when the unexpected happens and a heals/pet hotbar.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by point09micron View Post
    Since your original post didn't include the macro you were using, the problem you're having wasn't clear.

    Have you tested and verified that they each work separately as intended? If <t> isn't a player it should default to her, just like if you try to Cure/Physick a monster it will heal you instead. <tt> should only work if you're targeted on an engaged mob, or on a player that's targetting another player. I guess it would also default to either her or you if not. Not in game right now so I can't play around with it.


    I looked up similar complaints and found that some tweaking done in one if the early 2.x patches broke this macro.

    And no, I'm not crazy;using <t> and <tt> by themselves works perfectly, as you'd expect; trying to list them as consecutive actions in the same macro causes the fairy to default to casting on herself as soon as a command fails. It's like she's casting before confirming the secondary target option.
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  8. #18
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    Zelth Amreth
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    I don't use macros at all so I don't know the (dis)advantages of using them. I tend to treat the fairy not as a pet, but an extension of my own abilities. To me, embrace is an off GCD minor heal I can use independently of my own heals, and it will actually chase people who are slightly out of range. It's almost perfect for off healing, so if a dps takes a minor hit, I'll use embrace and keep doing whatever else myself. Otherwise, I tend you use embrace and physick in tandem on whoever needs a heal most.



    This is my bar, 1-3 primary healing, 4 is sacred soil so I can get it out fast (I tend to use Shadow Flare more, so this I'll drop during a big aoe, then afterwards recast SF) 5 is for fairy heal, I'll switch it out with the one above depending on which I have out. 6 for Aetherflow, used on cooldown, and 7 is Lustrate, wanted it to be an easy button to press in a pinch, but not so close to my primary heals that I accidentally use it. I manually click the rest, so I grouped them by utility. I got a DPS block, I have summons next to swiftcast next to raise. The next few are kind jumbled but they are buffs, pet heal, leeches, and the couple of dps skills that didn't belong on the primary bar (I call this 'stuff I don't use often' with the exception of stoneskin). On the third bar it's AoE chunk, virus, and a selection of PVP skills. Finally, the last bar is the 'pet stuff/ things I click VERY often' bar.

    Oh, I use a separate primary bar for soloing. It's the exact same as this one, but the healing chunk and dps chuck are reversed.
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    Last edited by Zelth; 10-19-2014 at 12:20 AM.

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    Traumatic Trauma
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    My hotbars change based off the pet I summon.....like so....

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  10. #20
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    Traumatic Trauma
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    As for that pish posh marco-ing Embrace and Psy together. Don't. You will undoubtedly spam that key when you are panic'd resulting in your fairy getting queue spammed and then you might as well have her on Sic because thats about how useful your Fairy becomes until all the embrace requests finish and she is ready to accept new commands.

    Commands like that silence you should have casted....but you wiped...because Embrace + Psy is for baddies.
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