Coil Lite Please

[Lufir]

I really dislike the "go to Youtube" arguments. That is dismissing the whole point of being a gamer. The point of playing a game is the interaction. Furthermore, in an MMORPG, that interaction is extended to other players and NPCs. Would you want to be invited to a friends house to just watch Metal Gear Solid, Call of Duty, or any other game you enjoy? Hell no, you want to play that game and be a part of the events that unfold.

I can watch trailers and gameplay of said shooter/rpg/platform games all day and it does nothing for me unless I'm the one behind the controller/keyboard.

[StrejdaTom]

I believe that adding some easier version of coil is fine as long as there will still be the normal version with bit of echo. My coil static got to T9 2 weeks ago and I woud love to finish T9 normally, without any huge nerfs.

[Darkshade]

This thread makes my head hurt.

Here I am thinking the game needs more raid and end game content and greater variety of fun, interesting and challenging content, and yet 95% of the player base would rather XIV 2.0 just be a virtual chat room with no challenge where all the boss fights are just cutscenes of their characters winning the game. But what do I know, all the smarter people I knew took off months ago after T9 became farm-able with no interest in savage.

Now I login with nothing to do patiently waiting for content patches. I guess I'm the idiot.

[Vespar]

There is a large difference between challenging and punishing.

[Lillia]

@Exstal;
Idk, I know some players who want to do Savage so... maybe not a lot did or wanted to do it but some players do like it.

And maybe a way to see the cutscenes without the clear or gear. I think that clear and gear should be more of an achievement thing for clearing the battles than content given away especially considering echo makes it crazy easy once content is outdated as it is. :/

[shadowkrusha]

For me they just need to change how echo works slightly.

Living in Australia and playing on a NA server (To be with friends) I just need the game to be more lag friendly.

If they changed echo to increase cast time or some variant so that people with lag don't get one-shot, that would solve a number of problems. The crazy HP is nice, but it's worthless when I'm being landslid off a rock, or dieing to twisters.

[Lillia]

For me they just need to change how echo works slightly.

Living in Australia and playing on a NA server (To be with friends) I just need the game to be more lag friendly.

If they changed echo to increase cast time or some variant so that people with lag don't get one-shot, that would solve a number of problems. The crazy HP is nice, but it's worthless when I'm being landslid off a rock, or dieing to twisters.

I have a friend on a potato cutter pc who runs coil T5 from time to time for a clear and said he actually got really far.... with his lag so.. I think it's very very hard and a super big handicap but echo made coil much easier in comparison to SE just leaving it without echo or adjustments to help less experienced players.

There's not just a HP increase but also a dps and heal increase to it.

[Lillia]

I really dislike the "go to Youtube" arguments. That is dismissing the whole point of being a gamer. The point of playing a game is the interaction. Furthermore, in an MMORPG, that interaction is extended to other players and NPCs. Would you want to be invited to a friends house to just watch Metal Gear Solid, Call of Duty, or any other game you enjoy? Hell no, you want to play that game and be a part of the events that unfold.

I can watch trailers and gameplay of said shooter/rpg/platform games all day and it does nothing for me unless I'm the one behind the controller/keyboard.

Then shouldn't players also work for the achievement of clearing it and learning the mechanics especially considering it being nerfed up for the purpose of it allowing players less experienced to attempt coil with a upper hand? :/

I don't think players should be 'locked out' of content but I think there should be a sense of accomplishment instead of nerf'ing it up all the way so there's no risk and everyone can smooth ride through content only to be locked out by current content again anyways.

Edit: If nothing else than it'd just be better to open up a way to see the cutscenes without clear for characters with requirements to open first coil. Maybe the bard npc who makes illusions/recalls of memories should be given this purpose.

[NovaUltimatum]

Add spectator mode to regular coil, everyone wins!

[TomTom1968]

I understand and share the opinion that best gear should come from Coil. Participate in the hardest fights and as a reward for banging your head, get the best items in return. Hunt iLevel 110 items and Nexus weapons have already made a mockery out of it because you can get equal gear without ever having seen Coil from the Inside.

So what's left? The lore, the cutscenes, bosses and trash. Why not allowing everybody to enjoy it? There are a good portion of cutscenes around Coil, even with voice acting which is quite rare in the Game and I initially blame SE for releasing only one version of it. Time to let everybody view the side Story that is Coil. And it may be an incentive to step a foot into real Coil and catch some people's interest to see more or the real deal.