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  1. #571
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
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    1- The point of this poll is to reflect that it is not a small group of summoners, it is the majority.
    2- SE reworked the whole FF14 because it was flawed, reworking a class is not a big deal especially when its identity is totally messed up, otherwise we can just stop calling it summoner. This game is based on final fantasy theme, you are not playing it because it is an MMO, the reference to final fantasy is what makes it appealing to at least 80% of players.
    3- If SMN becomes pet based, the pets can have the damage SMN currently does with its warlock DOT simply converted to SMN, wither it was physical, or spells, it can be balanced in a way that the maximum damage output per min is equal to the current that SMN does. I dont work in SE development dpt. But that something they are getting paid for. Dont worry they are naive to implement what people suggest without some calculations.
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  2. #572
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamapathy View Post
    1- The point of this poll is to reflect that it is not a small group of summoners, it is the majority.
    I'm glad all of the 60 Summoners that play FF14 voted on this issue.
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  3. #573
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    I'm glad all of the 60 Summoners that play FF14 voted on this issue.
    This true statement made me smile.
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  4. #574
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    I'm glad all of the 60 Summoners that play FF14 voted on this issue.
    No need for unnecessary sarcasm here, this is an open topic on the top of the DPS classes thread, It is an open invite for any Summoner to come in an post his opinion, so far as per the survey is going the majority recognizes the issue, so wither it was 60 or 600 hundred it may grow proportionally, the bigger the pool the higher the accuracy.
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  5. #575
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamapathy View Post
    No need for unnecessary sarcasm here, this is an open topic on the top of the DPS classes thread, It is an open invite for any Summoner to come in an post his opinion, so far as per the survey is going the majority recognizes the issue, so wither it was 60 or 600 hundred it may grow proportionally, the bigger the pool the higher the accuracy.
    Except that the OP hasn't been updated in a year ?

    http://i.imgur.com/bDZRpwX.png
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    Last edited by Dwill; 10-14-2014 at 06:42 AM.

  6. #576
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamapathy View Post
    No need for unnecessary sarcasm here, this is an open topic on the top of the DPS classes thread, It is an open invite for any Summoner to come in an post his opinion, so far as per the survey is going the majority recognizes the issue, so wither it was 60 or 600 hundred it may grow proportionally, the bigger the pool the higher the accuracy.
    Right, but forums (on any game, really) have never been a reliable way to gather data on player opinion. Forum posters only ever represent a fraction of any game's playerbase. On top of that, the players who are satisfied with the current state of things tend to keep quiet, while those who are dissatisfied will voice their opinion, often quite loudly.

    It's fine to discuss changes you'd like to see and whether you're happy or not with how things are, but you can't claim the majority feels any way without using more reliable sources of data.

    Pet peeve, is all. Didn't mean anything personal.
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  7. #577
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Players who already have a lvl 50 Summoner wouldn't have to level an Evoker since Square Enix would give them a lvl 50 Evoker.
    You're insane.
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  8. #578
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    The fact is some people won't be happy until FFXIV Summoner mirror what FFXI has and anything else is just a slap in the face. I for one prefer FFXIV over FFXI and only have a few quality of life change I would like to see.
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  9. #579
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamapathy View Post
    *snip*
    OP: 40-20, so 60. A small number to the amount of players who main Summoner. If SMN was looked at poorly then it would be hard to find for groups, that is not the case however. The forums in their entirety, are little more than a small playerbase sample, btw.

    You're projecting your own SMN gripes and reasons for playing onto the rest of us. Just because you feel one way, doesn't mean 80% of everyone else feel the same.

    1.0 was not a stable financial endeavor. SE is not likely to lose revenue because SMN is not living up to a few player's expectations. However devoting time to a rework rather then new content might cause delays which could cost them money.

    With any suggestion referred to as a "balance nightmare" if your retort is Devs will make it work, you've basically admitted you have no concept of balance. Some shred of balance is required for a suggestion to be plausible. The starting point needs to be grounded in reality.
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    Last edited by dday3six; 10-14-2014 at 09:00 AM.

  10. #580
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    You're insane.
    Well, her mantra is "I don't care, the devs will take care of the balancing". >w>
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