The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[Numenor1379]

I didn't check, but are the numbers plugged into the calculator currently even possible? A bunch of secondaries will need to be flipped around to get the required PIE, I am not sure that was done given the other rotations seem to have numbers identical to what they were before. If so, the 30dps difference we see right now is clearly wrong.

[PuroStrider]

@Ceveth - Fixed.. been a long night m8.. also switched DET and CRIT as requested. You owe me 3.50mil

@ShouterTaru - There was one box I missed for F6 Rotation, though that wasn't the problem. I reworked the template and updated the calc (v6.1). Should look a lot more realistic now. Just need a tester or two to confirm.

[Ceveth]

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[Zencurse]

Quick question: People have been discussing the benefit to DPS output of the 6 Fire I rotation. I know how much piety it requires thanks to keeping up with that discussion. But how much piety should then be melded into your weapon vs. what kind of changes to gear/stat allocation/food (if necessary) are required? Lastly there still seems to be some ambiguity with the benefits. I'm seeing some claiming it's lower, some claiming its higher by 2%ish, some claiming its an utter waste of time? Can we get a general verdict so future BLMs don't have to go back pages upon pages to try to figure it out for themselves?

[Sleigh]

Quick question: People have been discussing the benefit to DPS output of the 6 Fire I rotation. I know how much piety it requires thanks to keeping up with that discussion. But how much piety should then be melded into your weapon vs. what kind of changes to gear/stat allocation/food (if necessary) are required? Lastly there still seems to be some ambiguity with the benefits. I'm seeing some claiming it's lower, some claiming its higher by 2%ish, some claiming its an utter waste of time? Can we get a general verdict so future BLMs don't have to go back pages upon pages to try to figure it out for themselves?

The simplest way to test it is ask a friendly BRD to play Ballad for you and test on a dummy the 6 Fire rotation yourself (and not changing your UI phase from normal) and compare your results to your normal numbers.

[PuroStrider]

The blizzard before thunder was brought up somewhere on the dps forums a few weeks ago in the 251 piety debate, but dismissed for the early tick reason iirc.

A proposed gearset for 470 Acc:
Nexus: 24 PIE, 46 SS, 8 DET (or CHR)
HQ Saur Boots- Crit IV, Crit IV, Acc IV, PIE IV, PIE IV
Evenstar Neck/Ear/Ring
HA for the rest of the slots
HQ Pineapple Juice

This will only work for dunefolk, it takes more PIE for other races, and requires SCH. Built for SS

572 INT, 470 Acc, 445 CHR, 292 Det, 527 SS, 294 PIE

That set actually gave me 288 PIE.. which is far off from 302 requirement

Nevertheless, F6 rotation should give around +2.3% dps over F5, which is around 9-10 dps over current BiS given both F5 and F6 rotation have same gear and stat (yes did math with my butt buddy)

F6 won't be viable until lvl cap is increased imo.. it's probably neck and neck or worse than current F5 BiS. Just my $0.02

EDIT: Did a quick put together and got 422.8 for F6 rotation (vs 428.7 for F5 BiS)

Set
+293 INT
+132 ACC
+147 CRIT
+48 DET
+176 SSPD
+62 PIE

[StouterTaru]

That set actually gave me 288 PIE.. which is far off from 302 requirement

Gotta be a dunesfolk to get it with that set

245 base +24 from nexus +11 from boots = 280

+3% from SCH +5% from pineapple juice (doesn't cap til 340 base) = 302

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Side note, the percentages don't stack for piety boost. I popped out a choco on 315 PIE Sch, ate a NQ pineapple juice, and had 336 PIE. I figured it was this way, but if they had stacked it would have meant 292 PIE before food and SCH would be enough to hit 315.

I wouldn't say the build isn't viable, it's just not a far superior build. It's along the lines of T1 vs T2; the difference is barely a rounding error.

[PuroStrider]

Ah.. forgot about party buff...

Redid the build and got the exact same DPS for current BiS, which is 428.7.

It might become a viable option for 2.4 to until you get lewtz you actually need from new coil, which happens about 0.1% of the time in my experience.

[StouterTaru]

They gave us ivl90 crafted gear the last time they added a new coil and retired a philo tomes, ilvl110 crafted isn't unlikely in 2.4.

[Aiyza]

Hey guys!! I'm new to black mage and I'm having bit of trouble reading the rotation guide in the spreadsheet >< I understand what the moves are, but what is the point of the different rotations with the different dps rankings? Also why do some moves you use thunder I and some you use thunder II or III. Thanks!! Appreciate it