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    PLD Novus Parry vs. Crit

    Pretty sure there have been plenty of these but I'm bad at searching any kinds of forums so here goes.

    I've decided to put Acc, Det and either Parry or Crit on my Novus but frankly I can't decide between the two.

    I either hear people say CAP PARRY or that parry isn't quite worth investing into because you need larger numbers for a small increase in actually parry chance.

    Since there aren't that many alternatives I'd consider crit rate because that's still a slight DPS increase and higher DPS = easier enmity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    Pretty sure there have been plenty of these but I'm bad at searching any kinds of forums so here goes.

    I've decided to put Acc, Det and either Parry or Crit on my Novus but frankly I can't decide between the two.

    I either hear people say CAP PARRY or that parry isn't quite worth investing into because you need larger numbers for a small increase in actually parry chance.

    Since there aren't that many alternatives I'd consider crit rate because that's still a slight DPS increase and higher DPS = easier enmity.

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    I prefer parry so I'm going, personally, full parry on my Curtana/Shield, with a DET/ACC split on Curtana and full DET on my shield. I mean, if it's aggro you're concerned about, just go Crit. I haven't ever really had hate issues so I'm going Parry.
    I would say Parry would be the more definite choice if you were able to parry more types of damage, but it's mostly useless in magic-damage based fights.
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    Parry is a terrible stat. Put as much Det as you can afford then put as much ACc as you can afford then out the rest in crit.


    I just changed both of my nexus weapons from Acc/parry to Acc/det.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Parry is a terrible stat. Put as much Det as you can afford then put as much ACc as you can afford then out the rest in crit.


    I just changed both of my nexus weapons from Acc/parry to Acc/det.
    Do not do this. Don't just put in as much ACC as you can.
    If you're already meeting the ACC cap, or don't need that much ACC at all, then it becomes even more useless than parry. That's why I reduced the ACC on my Curtana and replaced it with DET, because I was already well past the ACC cap and didn't need most of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    Do not do this. Don't just put in as much ACC as you can.
    If you're already meeting the ACC cap, or don't need that much ACC at all, then it becomes even more useless than parry. That's why I reduced the ACC on my Curtana and replaced it with DET, because I was already well past the ACC cap and didn't need most of it.
    It's stupid to assume that you will be at accuracy cap for very long with newer content coming out. I will laugh at all who stack DET/CRIT with no accuracy when they start wiffing and need to re do their novus agian.
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    Still pretty new to FF14, but a FF11 vet. This is my take on Acc/Det vs Crit/Det

    At this moment (not saying this will happen in the future) you have 2 sets of 110 gear. From the news, we will get new currency to again, buy gear, and coil to get gear

    Current 2 sets are uncorrelated.


    1. You have Acc/Det you put on more Crit gear
    2. You have Crit/Det you put on more Acc gear
    3. You run into Acc issues during your progession, you eat acc food
    4. You hit Acc cap, during your progession, yup you guessed it crit/attack food or be cheap and don't eat food

    It's a 2 step flow chart A to B or B to A

    my 2 cents
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    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    It's stupid to assume that you will be at accuracy cap for very long with newer content coming out. I will laugh at all who stack DET/CRIT with no accuracy when they start wiffing and need to re do their novus agian.
    Whatever busts your nuts, brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    It's stupid to assume that you will be at accuracy cap for very long with newer content coming out. I will laugh at all who stack DET/CRIT with no accuracy when they start wiffing and need to re do their novus agian.
    Shame you're not able to put that extra accuracy elsewhere ...oh, wait.


    Not including weapon and shield, PLD can get up to 611 accuracy, probably not going to need that much for a while.
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    Last edited by Cadwgan; 10-11-2014 at 09:42 AM. Reason: Add'l info

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    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadwgan View Post
    Shame you're not able to put that extra accuracy elsewhere ...oh, wait.


    Not including weapon and shield, PLD can get up to 611 accuracy, probably not going to need that much for a while.
    We're going to be getting more accuracy when they add new gear too. To be vigorously beating off to the idea of people not meeting accuracy requirements, like some people, is just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    It's stupid to assume that you will be at accuracy cap for very long with newer content coming out. I will laugh at all who stack DET/CRIT with no accuracy when they start wiffing and need to re do their novus agian.
    You are thinking about this all wrong.

    Don't stack ACC. The game is not balanced with you needing to stack ACC on your Relic in order to hit the ACC cap.

    Curtana already has more ACC than any other weapon for same item lv. It's not necessary to add more in order to reach the cap.

    Sure, the first week a patch drops you won't be ACC capped again but you can reach it again before the month is up after getting the new gear. Then for the next 4-5 months you will have ACC on your Curtana that does absolutely nothing to enhance your gameplay, and is a wasted stat.

    By contrast if you put DET or CRIT you will do slightly more damage and generate more threat.

    I wouldn't do Parry as our high block rate makes Parry have little impact in our tanking.
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    Last edited by therpgfanatic; 10-22-2014 at 01:23 PM.

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