To the Complainers... GTFO, 1.18 ROCKS!

[AarosLunos]

Think SE will release a BLACKMAGE Class but will be totally diffrent then what were used to seeing in FF games.

Something like a SCH/Elementalist,Geomanner,Bluemage... Plus ever thought some Abilitys/Spells are better for other classes they arent gained on. That depends on how they change some abilitys/spells affinity's.

Lets say they add a blackmage class.

Fire,Water,Thunder etc work better on the new blackmage class rather then on the CON.

Con can still dishout attacks but no as effective.

Exactly, there is no reason that different mages can share elemental type spells and have varied effectiveness. Red Mage being a perfect example.

[Shai]

Well don't forget that Archanist is coming eventually. I can't see them launching the jobs system when there are unreleased classes! I think what will happen is we'll have three DoM classes, a hybrid healer, a hybrid nuker and a hybrid debuffer. SE did state that they are planning on re-organizing most abilities as part of reinforcing class uniqueness. So that could be likely. Then again CON could be the hybrid healer type class and still have elemental spells.

I'm pretty sure Yoshida said somewhere or another that they have no intention of implementing classes yet - that all their creative energy was going into Jobs. Now, obviously, Unangrier is an Archanist and there are plenty hanging around in Limsa Lominsa but "coming eventually" doesn't make THM suck less today. Nothing "coming eventually" has any real relevance on how little I want to play CON or THM today, does it? It just further alienates me from playing a game that I actually liked playing before this.

[SuzakuCMX]

I'm pretty sure Yoshida said somewhere or another that they have no intention of implementing classes yet - that all their creative energy was going into Jobs. Now, obviously, Unangrier is an Archanist and there are plenty hanging around in Limsa Lominsa but "coming eventually" doesn't make THM suck less today. Nothing "coming eventually" has any real relevance on how little I want to play CON or THM today, does it? It just further alienates me from playing a game that I actually liked playing before this.

Spoiler: He's an archon.

Also I can't get the spoiler tag to work.

[AarosLunos]

I'm pretty sure Yoshida said somewhere or another that they have no intention of implementing classes yet - that all their creative energy was going into Jobs. Now, obviously, Unangrier is an Archanist and there are plenty hanging around in Limsa Lominsa but "coming eventually" doesn't make THM suck less today. Nothing "coming eventually" has any real relevance on how little I want to play CON or THM today, does it? It just further alienates me from playing a game that I actually liked playing before this.

He never stated that. Thats exactly how a lot of misrepresented debates start on the forums :P Also there is a bigger picture that you're not seeing here.

[Shai]

He never stated that. Thats exactly how a lot of misrepresented debates start on the forums :P Also there is a bigger picture that you're not seeing here.

"I'm pretty sure" isn't really definitive proof is it.

I'm still pretty sure, but I think it was in a magazine interview and I'm never going to go find the quote for you on this one so you don't have to take my incredibly uncertain recollection of something I read weeks ago if you don't want to.

Saying they'll probably add Archanist to alleviate Conjurer bullshit is no less ridiculous in the speculation department, though. Can we agree on that?

[camjay]

To the original poster/original post: Hell Yeah brotha! I can't believe some of the complaints I've been reading on here. They told us the battle system was going through a COMPLETE re-haul. And they delivered exactly what they said they would. Keep going strong SE, bring us more challenges, more quests, and more content. I'm here for the long haul!

[Celeras]

Thanks Yoshi. Mages finally feel balanced instead of all out solo machines, combat enmity is much better and the dungeon difficulty is a home run. Looking forward to 1.19.

[LavellaNyteshade]

I like to eat cat food

[Skeloton]

Spoiler: He's an archon.

Also I can't get the spoiler tag to work.

Ummm...Archon isnt a class, its part of the story, IE one of 12 archons that spread rumours of things to come? basically hes a prophet. His class might be arcanist but it could just be CON. You dont see the Admiral as a class.

[Darkprincess022]

I don't love this update, but I don't hate it either. They way they nerfed SP I am not happy. I love the new areas, and I always played THM as BLM not WHM. CON was built to be a main healer and THM was meant for dot, nuking, and back up healing. I knew that from the get go! I am getting tired of hearing all the complaining, you adjust and get used to it. SE I am sure may still adjust some of the things introduced, to try and please everyone. This game is just beginning, why not sit back and enjoy watching it grow!?