SMN rotation

[Teeratong]

guys. what rotation do u think it can be the highest DPS!!! . in case T8 and T9

[SolarMisae]

I'm curious too. Haven't heard much about maximizing smn dps since we lost Thunder as a cross-class lol.

[Kyroc]

My opening rotation for T8:

Hard cast Shadowflare as Tank is running to boss
Auto attack, Raging Strikes, Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Miasma II, Ruin II, Fester, Contagion. Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Ruin, Fester, Ruin II.

That last Ruin II gets in half a second before Raging Strikes wears off. Swiftcast Shadowflare, then reapply dots as they are about to fall off. I only use Miasma II when I have contagion available for more mp for Festers.

My T9 opener is the same except no auto attack and no Miasma II.

Not saying this is the best opener but it works for me and I am usually highest DPS at start of every fight unless our BLM gets some good crits or rng procs.

[Dwill]

Optimal opener is:

Raging Strikes -> X-Potion of Intelligence -> Bio II (Start precasting it when you see your tank about to engage) -> Miasma (Start moving toward the boss at 0.5 left on the cast) -> Bio -> Fester (when Bio applies) -> Miasma II -> Potent Poison Potion -> Contagion + Swiftcast -> Shadow Flare -> Rouse -> Ruin II -> Spur -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Enkindle -> Ruin -> Ruin -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Aetherflow.

After this, it's mostly a priority system depending on how the fight goes. You want to refresh Dots when they have < 3 seonds remaining, same deal for Shadow Flare if the boss won't move for 12 seconds minimum. Make sure to use Ruin II in before using off-gcd abilities. Whenever possible, be in melee range to be able to auto-attack the boss.

My opening rotation for T8:

Hard cast Shadowflare as Tank is running to boss
Auto attack, Raging Strikes, Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Miasma II, Ruin II, Fester, Contagion. Rouse, Spur, Enkindle, Ruin, Fester, Ruin II.

That last Ruin II gets in half a second before Raging Strikes wears off. Swiftcast Shadowflare, then reapply dots as they are about to fall off. I only use Miasma II when I have contagion available for more mp for Festers.

My T9 opener is the same except no auto attack and no Miasma II.

Not saying this is the best opener but it works for me and I am usually highest DPS at start of every fight unless our BLM gets some good crits or rng procs.

Too many holes in there that can easily be filled. Hardcasting Shadow Flare in the opener is a big no-no. Try the one I posted above you. Consumables are not required but if you're looking the maximum damage output possible, they are. By the way for T9, you can get a Miasma II in for the opener. Just pop Sprint 5 seconds before the pull and you'll be back in place with the range.

[Havenchild]

Optimal opener is:

Raging Strikes -> X-Potion of Intelligence -> Bio II (Start precasting it when you see your tank about to engage) -> Miasma (Start moving toward the boss at 0.5 left on the cast) -> Bio -> Fester (when Bio applies) -> Miasma II -> Potent Poison Potion -> Contagion + Swiftcast -> Shadow Flare -> Rouse -> Ruin II -> Spur -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Enkindle -> Ruin -> Ruin -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Aetherflow.

After this, it's mostly a priority system depending on how the fight goes. You want to refresh Dots when they have < 3 seonds remaining, same deal for Shadow Flare if the boss won't move for 12 seconds minimum. Make sure to use Ruin II in before using off-gcd abilities. Whenever possible, be in melee range to be able to auto-attack the boss.

This covers most of it. Personally I modified my T9 slightly in the first phase documented below:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...age-Discussion

PS: I also don't save Enkindle in T8 for that first Dread anymore, often enough I've pulled lower numbers saving Rouse, Spur , Enkindle for that moment instead of just going full throttle on the boss.

[Dwill]

snip

Obviously the rotation can be altered depending on the encounter. Sticking to one thing and one thing only is unwise.

[BlaiseArath]

I'm surprised this much thought goes into the exact form and sequence of your 1/2/3's. Not saying this is a bad thing at all, I just truly wonder how much extra DPS is gained by following such a strict formula like this

Raging Strikes -> X-Potion of Intelligence -> Bio II (Start precasting it when you see your tank about to engage) -> Miasma (Start moving toward the boss at 0.5 left on the cast) -> Bio -> Fester (when Bio applies) -> Miasma II -> Potent Poison Potion -> Contagion + Swiftcast -> Shadow Flare -> Rouse -> Ruin II -> Spur -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Enkindle -> Ruin -> Ruin -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Aetherflow.

Again... absolutely no problems with it, I'm actually quite the min-maxer myself, just never to this degree... yet

(Edit: I know you obv meant just for that fight and not everything ever )

[Sen_Terrechant]

I'm surprised this much thought goes into the exact form and sequence of your 1/2/3's. Not saying this is a bad thing at all, I just truly wonder how much extra DPS is gained by following such a strict formula like this



Again... absolutely no problems with it, I'm actually quite the min-maxer myself, just never to this degree... yet

(Edit: I know you obv meant just for that fight and not everything ever )

This is just our opening rotation and its the correct one to squeeze the most damage out. Thats what DPS is for the most part, small little things that add up to be a lot.

More on topic: After the rotation is done just keep DoTs up (refreshing with about 3 seconds left) Use Aetherflow on cooldown, only use Fester (or Bane if you need to AoE onto something).
Raging Strikes almost on CD (you may need to wait 5-10 seconds depending on how contagion lines up).

[Synestr]

Hey all I am rather new to SMN. Well just dinged fiddy and am wanting some feedback. I am in no way an endgame SCOB SMN but for was reading the above and can't help but thinking I am doing something wrong. For the most part I seem to do pretty well in duties, I get a lot of yellow to orange triangles if that is any indicator.

Here goes:

Bio > Raging strikes > Miasma > Bio II > Miasma II > Fester > Bio > Bane > Shadow Flare > Ruin II > Ruin

I think that is how I go. I am looking for suggestions to improve my DPS here. I read above about the weaving of rouse, spur and enkindle....duh, that makes so much more sense now.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

[OneWingedSora]

Here's my rotation. 460 DPS in 3:20 minutes with I110 weapon. As you can see, I am never suffering from GCD in the video, so always make sure to follow any move with GCD with an instant cast move like shown in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrPq...ature=youtu.be

Same rotation can be applied to T9 and T8 opening(Minus the energy drain part). Though I do save enkindle for the dread. Since you can only use two enkindles per fight, saving Enkindle for first and third dread means that you can hit 4 targets by Enkindle, maximizing the damage. Of course, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be using Rouse and Spurr in between those parts.

Also, don't use energy drain unless you really need the MP or you need to burst something quick.