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  1. #221
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    Class/Job System- is boring, lacks creativity and depth because they built it around casual player skill oversimplifying it instead of building the system around the potential of the class/job.
    I was never one to have time to level 10 characters in one game, I RP so I make a story for my character but being able to play all jobs is nice.

    Combat- oversimplified and lacks depth there are no crowd control abilities, not a lot of support abilities and no skill chains.
    I would like some more abilities that are needed but not in every fight. Like Silence for my BRD would be nice if it was more useful.

    Zodiac Weapons- takes to long for the casual player to get for very little gain. At ilvl 110 it should take a max of 3 weeks for a player to get if they play 2 hrs a day since new Raids and gear come out every 6 mos.
    I personally like the pace I am getting this done. Just starting on Alexander farming this week.

    Raiding- has a lot of one shot mechanic and is unforgiving because if one player screws up he or she can wipe the entire party
    I will admit, One Shot is cheap and needs to be removed from the game, I'm all for gating with DPS check, Healing Check, Tank check, But one shot sucks because it often has nothing to do with skill of player if there isn't enough reaction time for player to move. And this being the internet, You need to account for lag times which for some will be more then other.

    Weekly Lockout- Players can down T6-T9 on a weekly basis and not get a single loot drop for their class. Players wouldn't mind a weekly lockout if one piece of loot dropped for all classes
    I personally like how this is gated. It prevents to much of a gap between Elite players and the rest of the player base giving them a reason to help out. As long as they haven't done there turn 9 yet.


    In general anything worth getting in this game is a long boring grind for very little reward if something is going to be a long grind it will have to be the best item in the game until the next expansion.
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    I don't think something that is a grind between Major patches need to be the best item till 3.0 It need to be the best item for 2 major patches.


    So I only agree with one of your reasons also I don't see anyone of these one things breaking the game so someone leaves over it.
    I've been playing MMOs for 12 years. I've quit all of them before FFXIV, Why I don't have time for 2 MMOs.
    Also the grass is greener on the other side of the fence is what I personally thing is the biggest reason people try another mmo, some come back some don't.
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    Last edited by CrystalRainbow; 10-09-2014 at 02:17 AM.

  2. #222
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    Nageki's Avatar
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    Nageki Okami
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    You forgot the spoon feeding of casual players compared to moderate to hardcore players to keep them happy!
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  3. #223
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Lol, i know you don't have the whole history of my previous conversations surrounding this so I will try to simplify it for you.

    I do not own a credit card in any form. I WILL not own a credit card in any form. I do use paypal (which I could detail all that for you if you like... but we could just leave it at that.) It is accepted almost everywhere online now, its simple, its trusted, Please add it to your crysta payment SE. Until you do, I cannot add more time. Thanks! I love your game and want to keep playing!
    Everybody has the right to not use one of they so desire, I respect that. The thing though is that even though I agree that having Paypal would help, the near totality of people eligible for credit cards have at least one which is one (based on conjecture, could be something else) of the reasons why Square Enix are in no hurry to add more payment methods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    @Dwill That is not a factual statement with a source it's an opinion are you serious? This is the butt hurt I was talking about looking for any kind of angle and what's more evident about that statement is I ain't even the first person to say that. It's been said many times and probably will be said many more times to come.
    That kind of opinion is unwanted drivel as it's extremely negative and is shared only by a handful of people, mostly by the one who are the first to jump ship as soon as a new shiny appears which means no harm done for the game when they decide to bail, which by your posts, I'm surprised you haven't done already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    But you're akin to people who say WoW is dying. Can't you see why people won't take you seriously when your experiences are not indicative of the experiences of the general populace?
    Pretty much that.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 10-09-2014 at 02:39 AM.

  4. #224
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    @Dwill That is not a factual statement with a source it's an opinion are you serious? This is the butt hurt I was talking about looking for any kind of angle and what's more evident about that statement is I ain't even the first person to say that. It's been said many times and probably will be said many more times to come.
    But you're akin to people who say WoW is dying. Can't you see why people won't take you seriously when your experiences are not indicative of the experiences of the general populace?
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  5. #225
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    Elven's Avatar
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post

    That kind of opinion is unwanted drivel as it's extremely negative and is shared only by a handful of people, mostly by the one who are the first to jump ship as soon as a new shiny appears which means no harm done for the game when they decide to bail, which by your posts, I'm surprised you haven't done already.
    Any rubbishing of an opinion is unwanted drivel.
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  6. #226
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    Elven's Avatar
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    But you're akin to people who say WoW is dying. Can't you see why people won't take you seriously when your experiences are not indicative of the experiences of the general populace?
    Wow lost a lot of people but still lots of people are playing are you saying this game compares to wow because this would be the statement people don't take seriously.
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  7. #227
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    Wow lost a lot of people but still lots of people are playing are you saying this game compares to wow because this would be the statement people don't take seriously.
    I'm saying you're taking your experience and projecting it as a well known fact.

    FFXIV has lost a lot of people but still lots are playing. FFXIV is going to go F2P.
    Does that make sense to you? If it does, this conversation ends here.
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I'm saying you're taking your experience and projecting it as a well known fact.



    Does that make sense to you? If it does, this conversation ends here.
    Once again for the kiddies an opinion isn't fact
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  9. #229
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    Sora Burakku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Everybody has the right to not use one of they so desire, I respect that. The thing though is that even though I agree that having Paypal would help, the near totality of people eligible for credit cards have at least one which is one (based on conjecture, could be something else) of the reasons why Square Enix are in no hurry to add more payment methods.
    Oh you bet! CC's are highly popular and it also sorta weeds out the much younger crowd who probably shouldnt be playing on their own anyway. I could go on and on about how i disagree with the idea of "bad" credit but it is a personal choice. I get letters in the mail all the time asking me to get one and it would be nothing for me to sign up, i just cant bring myself to do it. Mostly cause I don't trust myself, too many awesome things to buy on the internet. Honestly, this is the only thing I have complained about on these forums and the only thing I have asked to be put in the game so its not like i'm prone to complaints.

    At least SE has the basics covered, CC and Time Cards. Heck, even allowing us to use a time card to get crysta would solve my problem.
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  10. #230
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    Any rubbishing of an opinion is unwanted drivel.
    So you don't want your opinion criticized yet you post it on a MMO forum ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elven View Post
    Once again for the kiddies an opinion isn't fact
    That manner of speech is also one of the reasons no one takes things you say seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Oh you bet! CC's are highly popular and it also sorta weeds out the much younger crowd who probably shouldnt be playing on their own anyway. I could go on and on about how i disagree with the idea of "bad" credit but it is a personal choice. I get letters in the mail all the time asking me to get one and it would be nothing for me to sign up, i just cant bring myself to do it. Mostly cause I don't trust myself, too many awesome things to buy on the internet. Honestly, this is the only thing I have complained about on these forums and the only thing I have asked to be put in the game so its not like i'm prone to complaints.

    At least SE has the basics covered, CC and Time Cards. Heck, even allowing us to use a time card to get crysta would solve my problem.
    I can respect someone wise enough to restrain themselves on something they know they would abuse. And I agree, Time Cards are a solution that shouldn't be too hard to implement for someone like Square Enix.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 10-09-2014 at 03:50 AM.

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