

So taking longer to build up makes it more complicated?
Plus they don't have to alternate between Greased Lightning and Slimy Water, that would be insanely complicated.
Sorry, I didn't sign up for "Advanced Dodging Mechanics 501".
Also, let's ignore the "positioning" bit I mentioned on the last page.
Yea, losing a handful of DPS because I didn't explicitly plan out dodging for the entirety of the fight is going to end up taking an extra half hour to clear a boss.
I'm not even sure why this is being discussed. FF14 isn't a hard MMO. If this was Tera and you were getting one-shotted for not dodging and knowing the dozens of one-shot mechanics, I'd understand. But, really, the "Move out of the glowing circle with 30 minute cast time" game isn't the proper place to try and throw around an elitest attitude.
Especially not on completely optional content.
Taking longer to build up, managing CDs, DoTs, Debuffs, and the sheer fact that as melee you're more vulnerable than ranged for the vast majority of content?
Oh and the whole "I can't instantly get GL3 with a 2s cast skill" bit.
But let's pretend like BLM has more going for it than "Predict regen ticks" and Thunder.
Legit.



What about when we're not overgeared for content again? Or just straight up learning content? Everyone who calls this game super easy seems to forget the non-Savage content was tuned for i90-i95 to clear reasonably, including T9; the good groups were beating T9 with average item levels sub-100, plenty of them with i95 weapons. Those groups were the ones with GOOD DPS, not slackers who took fights as they come. What gear were you when you cleared T9?Yea, losing a handful of DPS because I didn't explicitly plan out dodging for the entirety of the fight is going to end up taking an extra half hour to clear a boss.
I'm not even sure why this is being discussed. FF14 isn't a hard MMO. If this was Tera and you were getting one-shotted for not dodging and knowing the dozens of one-shot mechanics, I'd understand. But, really, the "Move out of the glowing circle with 30 minute cast time" game isn't the proper place to try and throw around an elitest attitude.
Only because a handful of ppl cleared it with this gear, doesn't mean it is tuned to that ilvl. But if this thinking assists your self-confidence, so may it be...
Only the devs know for which ilvl they tuned it. However, it seems peeps always try to find their little niche where they can feel superior lol xD
Last edited by Grotesque; 10-09-2014 at 09:31 PM.

Its not a niche. If you cleared it with a far lower ilvl then most people, isnt that the definition of superior?Only because a handful of ppl cleared it with this gear, doesn't mean it is tuned to that ilvl. But if this thinking assists your self-confidence, so may it be...
Only the devs know for which ilvl they tuned it. However, it seems peeps always try to find their little niche where they can feel superior lol xD
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: of high quality : high or higher in quality
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: better than other people


OK, we can pretend that monk has more going for it than punch-rotate-punch while we're at it. You have to hit 2 buttons to get GL3, and not only that, you have to hit the second one three times!Taking longer to build up, managing CDs, DoTs, Debuffs, and the sheer fact that as melee you're more vulnerable than ranged for the vast majority of content?
Oh and the whole "I can't instantly get GL3 with a 2s cast skill" bit.
But let's pretend like BLM has more going for it than "Predict regen ticks" and Thunder.
Legit.



You certainly can see the difference between bad and optimal. Things die in half the time, you skip troubling phases and mechanics, you have more leeway to the enrage if people die, you can clear high-end content with less gear (IE when there weren't poverty sands and oils floating around and every scrap of gear counted) ... hell, even in farming easy content like for Nexus farming, give me an optimal group of DPS for the 40+ hours of grinding it takes, it is certainly noticed and appreciated.
It sounds like you don't care for T6-9 or high-end end-game. Sounds like you'd rather wait for 2.5 to get your i130. That's okay, not everyone wants to work harder for gear that gets outdated in half a year, but don't come into a forum about discussing how to get better at DPS and tell us just stop caring because the LOLcontent it sounds like you haven't even done and can't accurately judge, in this gear level or more appropriately tuned gear levels, is just soooooo easy.
Last edited by Sleigh; 10-11-2014 at 07:51 AM.

you lost me when you said that, like that makes no sense at all lol, I'd imagine an elitist attitude doesnt belong in non-optional (read super easy) content. Either way there is a bit of tight management in order to play optimally. Things like Sleigh discussed that I won't bother repeating. Whether you like it or not there is a large damage variance across different demographics of players, obviously it isn't so simple anyone can do it.
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