Fenrir in a duneon? Really SE, reallllllllly?

[Erepio]

Since when is Fenrir an elder primal in FFXIV lol??

aslo Fenrir has only like 3 appearances in FF games with the most notable one in FFXI other than that its not as a "big" summon as Shiva, Odin etc

you cant rly expect em to make all of the summons primals..then we would have nothing but primal fights

[faris]

Siren primarily a water summon with wind as a secondary one, if at all....and u are also forgetting that Garuda was a 1.0 primal, Yoshi couldnt chance it even if he wanted to

Wrong. Siren was non-elemental, status affliction silence. She didn't actually deal water damage, that was Leviathan.

Since when is Fenrir an elder primal in FFXIV lol??

aslo Fenrir has only like 3 appearances in FF games with the most notable one in FFXI other than that its not as a "big" summon as Shiva, Odin etc

Uh, wrong. Shiva, Ifrit, Ramuh, Leviathan, Titan and Garuda were celestials, from other worlds.

Fenrir, Diabolos and Carbuncle were Terrestrials, from Vana'diel, which made them more powerful than Celestials - though it should be noted in Carbuncle's case that his power was dwindling because of the effort required to keep Vana'diel safe. He was barely terrestrial level. Diabolos' power dwindled after the Shadow Lord became the Dynamis Lord also.

Odin, Bahamut and Alexander were actually gods.

Generally, Fenrir is way, way, way, way, way more powerful than Shiva. Just summoning him made Karaha-Baruha become a thing (which was no longer part of Vana'diel) and Sarutabaruta become a desert from the energy the summoning drew from the land, and later in wotg, two versions of Karaha-Baruha summoning Fenrir together resulted in the both of them dying.

Just sayin'

[Erepio]

Wrong. Siren was non-elemental, status affliction silence. She didn't actually deal water damage, that was Leviathan.

Em...did u notice where i said "if at all"

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again.... "most notable in FFXI other than that" i guess me not putting a , was a mistake

u didnt notice i put big in quotes did ya...i meant big in popularity not strength..aslo what happened in FFXI, or any other FF means jack shit in FFXIV, just beacuse ffxiv primals are BASED on ffxi avatars doesnt mean they are gonna be the exact same thing