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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    You contradict yourself here, and find the sentence where I said get full SOLD gear, I said it fills in gaps, and those gap fillers are more then good enough, theres no reason to change the system and utterly ignore what SOLD gear was designed for to coil raiders, I have full comprehension on the matter, Ive raided in high end progression in WOW for a few years now.

    Also I know what RNG is thank you, try waiting 8 months for a drop, did I act like people here, nope.
    While I did indeed contradict myself in that sentence (I meant optimization for Coils, should have used better words), the main point still stands. You said Soldiery is a valid alternative to High Allagan:

    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Actually it wouldnt work, because we already have SOLD gear as the alternative to use, thats why its there to fill in the gaps. People are just being greedy and not looking at the bigger picture, there is an option, you are just refusing to accept it. Upgrade is an upgrade, thats how its always been, refusing an upgrade is just idiotic, get the alternative item, use it.
    The thing is that not every Soldiery items is an upgrade for Coil raiders when accuracy is taken into account. That's something you aren't getting. You don't want to optimize your character (again 551 accuracy on Black Mage, which also makes me question what kind of "high end progression" you did on WoW), that's your issue. Don't bring everyone with you on this though.

    By the way, come back after you've waited for a year for an item (Hello Jailer of Justice and Salvage).
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    Last edited by Dwill; 10-05-2014 at 06:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You're saying that your inexperience is irrelevant because it happens in other games but the thing is that what happens in other game is irrelevant for this one. We are discussing an issue in this game and trying to find a solution for this game so your inexperience in this game is relevant to the topic at hand.
    No, I am saying that I am not inexperienced with the issue at all. That's the point. I've dealt with the issue of RNG loot vs. Token loot extensively. This is a game design issue, and its very relevant to much more than just 2nd Coil in FFXIV. This shouldn't be hard for you to grasp.

    My point is that, in my experience with the issue (which is extensive), RNG is a better system than Token loot. I'd rather roll the dice than have everything 100% predictable. I'd rather play a game of chance where I can win big (BiS very early in content cycle) or, yes, possibly lose big too (never see that BiS item). Having all my gear acquisition mapped out, week by week, months ahead of time is boring. Yes this is largely opinion, but in the end the topic is subjective no matter how you look at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    come back after you've waited for a year for an item
    I've done that. Multiple xpacs, actually. But I dont feel entitled to BiS in every slot just because I raid endgame zones every week.
    We get as close as we can to full-BiS, then a new xpac comes out and we do it all over again. Thats the nature of MMOs. Random loot drops is still a better system than Tokens, imo.
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    Last edited by Dyne_Fellpool; 10-05-2014 at 09:01 AM.

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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool View Post
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    The thing is that it doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be a mix of both and be balanced. Of course all token is bad but all rng isn't better either.
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