SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Renshi]

I think Kai put a /thread out there. Accept the Truth and Shut Up!
And anyway, are you seriously caring more about SPs than about the story line and content to have fun? Take a break!

[Wynn]

Hey Wynn. The problem with that is we can only do 8 leves every day and a half. It's not a constant.

And since everyone here keeps mentioning this. Yes, I am aware leves are not meant to be the main way to rank, it used to be behest and now they want us to group. That's great except that I have already explained how it goes when you try to group in grind PTs. It is NOT fun in the least and when you see such small SP gains it just sucks any enthusiasm away.

Yeah, I agree. Leves are a problem being limited. Always have been.

One thing I will mention is that I did a behest last night and that was pretty bad as far as xp goes. Not worth the time really. Seeing that they now have an hour timer again, they should bump the xp back up for those.

[Pulseczar]

Has anyone tried doing a behest in a non-popular area and see how much more the bonus was at finish?

[Bled]

I'm going to say this. If you agree with me, that it's terribly difficult to rank up since the patch. Don't play anymore. Let the devs see. Only then will they make change. Ignore these rank 50s who talk as if they didn't gain their ranks when the game was easy mode.

That is a great idea! now if only you people would actually just leave... It is the second day of the patch and people are all ready throwing up their arms and rage quitting, even when we were told that leves were no longer going to be the BEST way to rank up...

[Wynn]

Has anyone tried doing a behest in a non-popular area and see how much more the bonus was at finish?

Yes. I can only assume because the patch just went through that there was no accumulated bonus yet. The xp was terrible even though recommended level was 45 and we were in the 35 - 38 range.

[Haru]

If you were to start a brand new character and level from 1-50 on all DoW and DoM jobs using guild leves only it will take 412 resets.. per job. 7 jobs.. (412x7 = 2884) x1.5 days = 4326 days.. thats just under 12 years!!

I love it! 12 years if you focus on guild leves to 50..

On the plus side it is super fast for DoL jobs.. DoH is better if you are lvl 40+ as the bonus is 3-4000sp

[Bled]

If you were to start a brand new character and level from 1-50 on all DoW and DoL jobs using guild leves only it will take 412 resets.. per job. 7 jobs.. (412x7 = 2884) x1.5 days = 4326 days.. thats just under 12 years!!

I love it! 12 years if you focus on guild leves to 50..

That is a ridiculous calculation of the leves seeing as there is no real constant to judge SP gains by without severely limiting yourself to what is actually offered in the game.

[Apollyon7]

I could be ok with all this... but where is my "Seek party Flag" to make ppl in all the server see that i want grind party??
Where is my "/sea all" command to see who is lookin for party....
I like the game, i like changes.... but ok with low sp on leves etc... but to have a great grind way for party i think we need those 2 things i mentioned before.
Peace

[Bled]

I could be ok with all this... but where is my "Seek party Flag" to make ppl in all the server see that i want grind party??
Where is my "/sea all" command to see who is lookin for party....
I like the game, i like changes.... but ok with low sp on leves etc... but to have a great grind way for party i think we need those 2 things i mentioned before.
Peace

AGREED! with what iv seen so far and the direction to group grinding becoming more useful we NEED "/sea all" function.

[Jabo]

People comparing the best leves with links vs your (now) average leves.
Things have changed. The best leves aren't the best leves anymore.
Comparing your average leve solo/duo vs your average leve solo/duo is what people should do.

This patch changed the game a lot and yet people are trying to play it the same way and wonder why it isn't as rewarding as before...
Also, changes were needed after surplus was gone. Leveling up was even with surplus way too fast and you dont need to be Rank 50 anymore to enjoy the game. Their is even more rank 30 content than rank 50, so i see no harm in staying longer in the 30-45 area.

Also i HATE the "playing only to get max rank" mentality.
Building up your character, waiting for the next weapon or piece of equipment, fighting enemys, getting back at them after few ranks by kicking their butts within seconds. I want that kind of stuff.
I don't want to get a time sink max level system where the game starts with max rank, so every rank below that is for the arsch like in this genuine World of Warcraft game...
Playing an MMORPG should never be a race for the highest rank.