Gil Sellers Becoming More and More Annoying

[Grey_Cain]

The order of priority is what's messed up. If we blacklist someone, it should automatically cancel all requests (whether friend, trade, FC, LS, party, whatever) immediately and remove or at least hide their chat from our logs automatically.

Instead, we can't even blacklist until we've denied all their requests, and their message sit in the logs until you do something to get it out of the way. If not much is going on, I've got a macro that'll fill a page with /echo text, but it only lasts until the next gil spam message pops up.

[Lux_Rayna]

Its incredibly hard for RMT to survive in p2p. Not only is there competition, but theres the expense of subs and a p2p companys sheer anti bot resources. Theyre aggressive bc they are essentially broke and desperate.

[Airikay]

Not true! I've seen lvl 50 bots at lvl 30 btn nodes, and lvl 50 Blm bots surrounding the aetheryte in Ul'Dah too. Ignoring by level won't work anymore. There needs to be a flagging feature or something so that a GM can pop in to see the area, see the bots at work, and if they don't get a response from the players, then they should be temporarily locked out of the game until the player contacts them via a link in the email or something idk I just came up with that off the top of my head. But if someone doesn't respond after being GM jailed then it is more than likely a bot, and if it isn't, then a real player could just go to their email, unlock the restriction and gain access again. Again, IDK, but it is certain that they need to do SOMETHING.

Those aren't the ones spamming. The bots farm then stuff to sell go make Gil. And SE doenst ban bots it seems. Just the occasional Gil spammer

[Divinemight]

I know that RMT cannot easily be stopped, but making it easier for the player base to report should be a pretty high priority.

If it isn't because your achievement list is having movement. I also start to believe that RMR became so cunning by pretend to complain about RMT but actually doing advertisement on the official Fourm.

Look at you post, all the detailed information such as name of RMT, price, and an URL. Are you really legit and not a hacked account? I am keep pondering.

[Kaaylryn]

I did edit my post and replaced the original URL with (sellsite). The post is legitimate and I have not linked to any RMT site since the link goes nowhere. I know it is against the rules to post actual RMT sites on the forums so therefore the edit. Thanks for your concern.

[Sammich]

Does anyone know if the EU servers have this problem too? I honestly can't remember the last time I saw RMT advertised anywhere on my server.

[Buff_Archer]

Seems clear enough to me you're not RMT, for one thing your English is too impeccable. I remember getting tells including stuff like 'Good Lucky!'

Here's my idea to make this visible to SE in new ways since all our reporting is going nowhere. Next time there's a competition where they want users to submit their videos and screenshots of stuff... stage them in front of botting teams. I'd love it if all these submissions were sent in with RMT and gathering/spirit binding bots in the background.

[Kimikryo]

i get maybe one or 2 rmt tells a day. sometimes not a tall in a week or once even no rmt tell in a month

Someone put up a theory that they "filter" somehow whome they sent a tell too. Don't ask me how but it seems that some players get way more tells than others

[SekhmetM]

Seems clear enough to me you're not RMT, for one thing your English is too impeccable. I remember getting tells including stuff like 'Good Lucky!'

Here's my idea to make this visible to SE in new ways since all our reporting is going nowhere. Next time there's a competition where they want users to submit their videos and screenshots of stuff... stage them in front of botting teams. I'd love it if all these submissions were sent in with RMT and gathering/spirit binding bots in the background.

That wont work.

1) The people who look at screenshots are Community PR. They can't and won't do anything.
2) Screenshots do not include interface and therefore player names do not display.
3) Nobody wants to waste their entry on something so whiny.

[Lithera]

You can take screenies with the interface up...

Bots are notoriously difficult to ban because unless they are blatently position hacking there's NOTHING that says they're botting. Just because they don't reply to a GM /tell doesn't mean they're not sitting there at the keyboard and just ignoring it. There's nothing in the ToS that says you have to respond to a GM. GM can't be gaoling you for Logging for 24hrs straight if your char is legitely moving from node to node. GMs don't have time to sit on every bot character for days on end...and that still wouldn't prove anything with enough certainty to risk the potential of banning a legit account. GMs therefore forward suspect char names to the task force who can investigate. Trace the bots to a bank character and banhammer the char sitting on billions of gil waiting to sell.

The /tell bots get abandoned fairly rapidly after sending a batch of tells, so yes a limit on tells etc. for low level chars could have SOME impact...but it would be temporary as the RMT sites would just prelevel accounts to 10 or whatever before putting them through the /tell spam cycle and wind up with a bank of level 10+ chars to cycle through. Or worse...they'd get more aggressive with hacking accounts.