Connection Between The Twelve and the Allagan

[The_Last_Dragoon]

Gaius Van Baelsar compares the twelve to the primals and theorizes that they could be summoned if someone used sufficient crystals. There's even the Little Ala Mhigo arc in the main story line which details a group of refugees who hoped to summon Rhalgar, the Destroyer to use against the Garlean empire. I've noticed that whenever you have a quest in which a primal is summoned with the single exception of Ramuh, the crystals are in fact labeled as "tainted," or "corrupted." which means that they are more akin to Zodiark instead of Hydaelyn, and that it's probably possible to summon a Primal similarly to Ramuh in a fashion where they are more benevolent like Hydaelyn. It's detailed that these corrupted crystals were being provided by the Ascians in order to complete the Ultima Weapon which is what they were going to use in order to bring catastrophe to Eorzea.


It's possible that while some races may revere a primal, it's quite obvious that not all primals consider them worshippers due to what Leviathan did to his priest. This means that it's very possible that a Primal/Eikon are just entities that exist in the Aether, and that the 12 are primals who offer small portions of their power to help the wandering races while they reside in the Aether. If this is true, then the twelve would definitely have pre-dated the Allagan, and the reason for the second seal failing was because Bahamut was only sealed with the combination of both the twelves power and the technology of the Allagan.

[treuhavik]

...and the reason for the second seal failing was because Bahamut was only sealed with the combination of both the twelves power and the technology of the Allagan.

Did you mean to say that the 1st was successful because he was imprisoned by both Allag tech AND power from The Twelve and that the reason the 2nd was unsuccessful was because it was only The Twelve's power attempting to contain him?

It makes sense. I was actually beginning to wonder how the Allag imprisoned Bahamut in the first place. (Like, did they just ask him nicely to sit still while they built Dalamund around him OR was Dalamund a giant Poke-Ball?) With the Allagan supposedly having advanced knowledge in summoning, I could see this as probable. However, without more information, any theory we come up with is just as crazy as the next.

Until someone can dig up some proof either way, I'll stick to mine, if only because it's more fun. If an extra-terrestrial race came by tomorrow and posed as the gods of Norse mythology, we'd never know the difference. So, what's to say it couldn't happen on Hydaelyn?