OFFICIAL Eorzea's Next Top Model Discussion Thread

[Parodine]

It's kind of a pity the round had to end like this. The shots were very pretty, and I worked for a couple hours on my own. So much Tri-Disaster spamming lol

But I like the solution overall where no one gets disqualified.

For the future though, it does raise a good point about rule interpretations. When I read the prompts, I try to take them very seriously with the requirements listed. Maybe it's the stress from a model perspective, but I try to take things very literally as to not get disqualified on a technicality. So I do think it was fair to interpret backgrounds that had less than 50% crystals as stretching it. It's great that you're trying to work with us and be flexible, but maybe it goes to show not to make quantifiable directions again. I'm not trying to criticize or attack you, but just wanna give some constructive feedback to reduce the drama in the future. Although that suggestion is probably obvious at this point. Regardless, thank you for working with us and running behind the scenes. Hopefully the fun outweighs the stress.

[Kyri]

I say we say we threw all this as a ENTM suprise birthday facade? Because im glad things came to the conclusion they did and that means...






Sooo



And remember

[Kyri]

Jericho here.

I've been at work all day kinda following along with the goings on via messages from Ciara. Against her wishes, here's my take on this (mainly to take some stress away from poor Rongi):

When the auditions were over and the participating models were selected, each one received an e-mail listing each round and what the theme of those rounds were. They were told to submit shots and that certain shots would have restrictions placed upon them (model must be wearing glasses, model must have new makeover, background must be crystal, etc). It is the models' responsibility to ensure that their submissions meet the criteria that have been provided. It isn't Rongi's responsibility to individually look through every submission and resubmission throughout the entirety of the contest to ensure the validity of each photo per the rules of the round.

The models' should look at their photo multiple times before submitting and ask themselves, "Does this picture meet the requirements? Is this a good picture? Do I feel that this shot is weak and could get me eliminated?" If you are uncertain or doubtful about any of those questions, then you should not use that picture. If you leave something questionable per the perspective of the voters, you are leaving open an avenue that could come back and bite you in the backside. Your only way of ensuring this does not happen is by taking a conclusive shot that leaves absolutely no room for question. Hence why Ciara went 100% crystal for her background. There can be absolutely no question that she fulfilled the initial shot requirement whatsoever.

Yunie and Tinsley submitted gorgeous pictures for this round. Now... the crystal they selected is a "tree", and it branches out and in total the tree itself does cover a wide area that could constitute ~80% of the shot. But, on the other hand, between those branches and twigs and crystal leaves is a lot of open space. If viewing the background simply for how much raw crystal is contained within, then these shots are far less than 80%, perhaps as low as 40-50% total crystal. The interpretation of this is left to the voter to decide, and it represents a controlled risk taken by the model. Leaving such a question open for debate means that you could lose votes and risk elimination.

For future rounds, I suggest the models take this critique to heart. I've watched plenty of these sorts of reality contests on TV and I have seen contestants eliminated from the competition on a technicality because they failed to meet some requirement or another. Crew members and judges panel of the shows weren't there to constantly tell them "you need to do this, don't forget to add this, I don't think this will meet the rules of the contest", etc. Don't expect that sort of treatment here, either. It is your responsibility to make sure your submissions meet the criteria that has been dictated. If you have a doubt then don't use that submission, because if you can doubt it yourself... so can your voters.

TL;DR: Rongi should submit whatever you send him as your final shot. It isn't his decision whether the shot meets the criteria... that is up to you (before submitting) and the voters (after submitting).

[YunieAura]

TL;DR: Rongi should submit whatever you send him as your final shot. It isn't his decision whether the shot meets the criteria... that is up to you (before submitting) and the voters (after submitting).

For this cycle, he made it his decision to decide whether each individual shot meets the criteria or not.
Even the placeholders we had to send in at the very beginning of the competition had to meet the criteria and be approved.
He already stated that if they got through, he saw criteria met.
Should it be different for future cycles? I don't know. It's up to him!

Edit: Good night, and let's get back to fuzzy and flirty and happy this weekend!

[Epsil]

phew, round ended early and I thought I wouldn't submit my judge vote in time @.@

[Kurique]

When is the next round due?

[TheRogueX]

And here people were accusing ME of being a drama lama! This whole thread exploded into a TNT weekly television series!

Here was my Round 10 shot, for anyone interested:



Not sure if it would have met the requirements though.

Also: Happy Birthday Tinsley!! I have your present in my personal room. Come by later to get it.

[EorzeasNTM]

Round 11 will start Monday night at 11:00pm, please have resubmissions for ROUND 11 in by 10pm. ^^

Also, casting will begin in another week or maybe two instead of this weekend. Sorry everyone. After today, Tyriont and I want to plan very VERY carefully for the next Cycle to ensure max comfort for everyone involved. Every couple of rounds these explosions of rage happen and I take full responsibility, but it can't keep happening. Models, voters, judges, and even the host are all getting their feelings hurt. Tyriont brought up a good point, that all of these arguments prove just how invested everyone is in the contest, and that is wonderful! I'm so glad you all love this event as much as I do. But its sad most of us wont walk away from this as friends, and even more sad some of us will walk away from this as sworn enemies.

Again, I take full responsibility, and I am sorry I am ruining the contest for everyone. My judgement may not be as harsh as some would like, and it definitely isn't right all the time, but I don't mean for it to ever come across as bias. I love all the models and want them all to win, but that isn't how this works is it?

Anyway, next round on monday, and give us some time for Cycle 3 to start casting. Sorry to ruin everyone's hype.

[Tinsley]

Also: Happy Birthday Tinsley!! I have your present in my personal room. Come by later to get it.

I came by for my present but you weren't there /sad panda


and thanks everyone for the birthday wishes! <3 you guys are da best

[Kaelah]

Awww Rooooongi! /pounce-hug
Thankoo so much for this contest, it's so fun. A shame some people kick off as they do. I agree with Jericho to a degree, it is also down to the models if they feel they meet the criteria, even if you do accept a shot. Models need to think about how voters will intemperate the criteria too.