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  1. #1051
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldAres View Post
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    If I get eruptions I usually hug the walls as much as possible and snake around people if we're about to meet in the middle with eruptions on us and hope I'm not about to run headlong into an eruption or they're not about to run headlong into mine, its a risk that happens when people spread out. When I am OT on ifrit if I notice at the start that he's being stunned by DPS I always as them to stop before shit hits the fan after the nails. I remember I used to have "get the dragon out the poison" on macro perhaps I should make one for DPS stunning in Ifrit ^^.
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    A short, personal horror story of my own doing.

    Arrrrghhhh..... Titan HM again.... got shoved off the side by complete bullshit, roughly-ish halfway through Titan's HP.... the bow of craigs pops up at the end. I meant to PASS seeing as I didn't get to do shit, and everyone was nice. Button press on Greed out of mindless habit. Auto-thought, "OH SHIT..... maybe.... if I just hold the button a few moments.... and then release.... it'll just... not... go through...?" (I do this on misclicks on other programs, sometimes.... usually works). "Thankfully it's uncommon that I roll wins."
    DO NOT WANT, DID NOT DESERVE.

    *Button release*

    Instantly won it. ._.

    Now I feel like, and look like, an asshole. ._. *Lays in a corner* Sorry, people that were in that group! >____<
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  3. #1053
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
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    I usually try to fly-by cast regen on myself and/or anyone missing hp (sometimes not) who is forced into my direction when running from eruptions, and hope that it helps give hp before and/or after they possibly take a hit. x.x

    Worst moment doing that, though, was someone I thought was ahead/near me with about half HP. Turns out the person's name I clicked was behind me. I immediately whirled and ate the eruption and a few others after that >_<
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  4. #1054
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    If I get eruptions I usually hug the walls as much as possible and snake around people if we're about to meet in the middle with eruptions on us and hope I'm not about to run headlong into an eruption or they're not about to run headlong into mine, its a risk that happens when people spread out. When I am OT on ifrit if I notice at the start that he's being stunned by DPS I always as them to stop before shit hits the fan after the nails. I remember I used to have "get the dragon out the poison" on macro perhaps I should make one for DPS stunning in Ifrit ^^.
    It sounds like you are already coming up with solutions to this problem. I'm sorry about your experience with those tanks, but at least some good came out of it.
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  5. #1055
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldAres View Post
    It sounds like you are already coming up with solutions to this problem. I'm sorry about your experience with those tanks, but at least some good came out of it.
    Kind of a trial by fire approach (no pun intended). Perhaps it was a group that decided to ignore mechanics because we're over the level significantly. Had a few groups like this specifically in Garuda HM that ignore plumes saying its fine while I'm having a mental breakdown because the whole party just hit 20% hp ._. Hate having people die if I'm healing, makes me feel awful (unless they're trolling).
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  6. #1056
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    "OH SHIT..... maybe.... if I just hold the button a few moments.... and then release.... it'll just... not... go through...?" (I do this on misclicks on other programs, sometimes.... usually works).
    If this is with a mouse, it'll work if you hold in and drag the mouse off the button before you release. Make it think you were trying to adjust your camera or something.

    If it's a controller, /shrug.
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  7. #1057
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    If this is with a mouse, it'll work if you hold in and drag the mouse off the button before you release. Make it think you were trying to adjust your camera or something.

    If it's a controller, /shrug.

    Weeeee, hopefully this time the forum won't eat my reply.... *attempt #4*
    Yeah, I don't remember if I pulled the cursor off or not, but I most likely did (or thought I did?)... maybe it just wasn't far enough... I probably just panicked and derped on top of that. *Flops around in the corner some more*
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  8. #1058
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    If I get eruptions I usually hug the walls as much as possible and snake around people.
    I've recently found that if you have enough space at first eruption, you can literally run around in contained circles and not be hit (given you give the circle around the first eruption is given a wide enough girth.... basically running around the width of the outer-most portion of the graphic) - and hope that no one comes running into your circle. It's really difficult to explain x.x; I'm sure I'm not the only one to employ this, though
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    A short one, but one that makes the stereotype of "DPS are dumb" more true. Did a run in Tam Tara Hard, tank was telling the group to not attack adds on the first boss. Bard proceeds to keep hitting adds with her AOE every time, giving us EIGHT stacks of Vulnerability Up! There was no way I'd be able to heal people fast enough with so many stacks and we tell the Bard to stop, but she proceeds to AOE adds a THIRD TIME. Everyone wipes but the tank and the tank finished the fight. Bard proceeded to blame the rest of us for not being able to stay alive and that it wasn't her fault. Bard rage quits and we get a much more competent Black mage.
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    I had a minor one early this morning, at a time that I probably should have been sleeping.

    I queue up for High Level Roulette to grab some myth, a BLM friend sees me queued and wants to come along. So I invite him and we go in together. We get a paladin tank who is new to Wanderer's Palace (WP) and a decked out dragoon. WP can be kind of rough for a tank that has never done it before because there are a number of "tricks" that people use to counter the mechanics of the duty and speed it up, many of them leftover from the days when WP was spammed constantly. I warn the tank about the stalkers and explain that fast pulling mitigates this, and he kind of learns as he sees the group rushing forward and picks things up. We aoe a few times, and get to the first boss before the stalker even knew what the heck was going on. So far so good.

    But there's a little problem: even after this, the drg keeps pulling things for the tank. Let me preface this by saying that I am no stranger to speed runs. When Brayflox was the big deal before hunts, I quickly learned how to optimize my use of holy, cooldowns, and cure spells to survive all but the stupidest of advances. So none of this was really killing us. But I found it kind of annoying because I'm a firm believer in the tank controlling the pace of the dungeon, even if it takes a little extra time. The guy was new, besides. Anyway, we run around like headless chickens a bit when the stalkers come out, except for my BLM friend who is standing ahead of us and furrowing his brow because we're a bunch of idiots. We bring in the enemies we picked up, aoe them down, and proceed to the flan boss. Goes down easily.

    On the last corridor, the drg really overdid it. After the tank pulled (NOT before), he tells him to take it to the end and charges forward. We were trying to aoe some mobs because the tank wasn't expecting this, but the tank is a good sport and follows. I follow too, along with my BLM friend, and half the mobs are hitting me because I did some healing and holy before we started moving. At the locked doors, things go crazy. Stuff is hitting my BLM friend as we aoe, and I save him when he's like a sliver from dying. He had maybe a couple hundred HP at most. Then it's my turn: almost no HP. Cure myself right before I bite the dust, survive, and we take everything down. Proceed to the boss room. Paladin gets in cutscene, drg pulls. I follow, not really knowing why he's in so much of a dang rush. Paladin gets in, but my BLM friend (perhaps rightfully) stands outside because he's tired of the drg's behavior. We clear it pretty quick because I'm used to taking down adds a certain way and burning the boss in cleric stance at the right time, but I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth. The paladin was a good sport and an excellent tank for being there for the first time, and I tell him that while WP is usually pretty quick that the drg had a few screws loose. We go our separate ways, and that's the end of it.

    I don't usually have stories to report here because I rarely consider it a "horror story" unless someone personally blames me. I see a lot of mistakes and deaths in the content that I run regularly, but they rarely result in a wipe and I consider it par for course when people are trying to learn. But I have to imagine that this run wasn't very pleasant for the tank. Honestly, I thought I was going to have a heart attack near the end when I had to keep pulling people back from the brink of death, but that's just the way it goes sometimes. I think other than misplaced blame, the biggest problem I have as a healer is with people who feel the need to go way too fast, especially with new players in the party. An example of this was the warrior from my other Pharos horror story at the end of page 50 in January. While I've adjusted and found ways to usually mitigate the damage that unreasonably reckless people cause, it would be better if people would be a little more cautious around new players. What would have happened if the healer in this run had been new? There probably would have been wipes and the drg would have thrown a fit, I imagine. All because he wasn't considering the circumstances of the tank in his group.
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