Gardening - Harvesting

[Jeykama]

I've finally got enough Thav onion seeds to start planting. Any recommendations on what to pair it with and soil type? I know there's no loop for it currently.

Onions behave like Krakka in terms of crossbreeding, so plant the onions with whatever you were using with Krakka to get the 2nd tier choco seeds, and you might be some of those.

As for what soil to use, rule of thumb is that if it's not a plant that has a static yield (glazenuts, thav onions, broombush, jute, minions, etc.) and you actually have a use for it, use Thanalan soil. I use Shroud soil only for Krakka and chocofruits (since I use those in bulk), and Thanalan for basically everything else as there's no point gardening if you're not constantly crossbreeding. There's always the small chance of getting 9x seeds from the Shroud-planted stuff at least.

[Sounders]

I just like to share this with you guys. I mentioned earlier that glazenuts has the best chance to yield thav onions. I was wrong because this never happened to me before when I was still using glazenuts

[Lebenoshl]

Has anyone gotten 9 mandrake seeds from a Almond/Krakka (or cocofruit) cross using shroud soil? I haven't seen anyone post pictures of them doing so.

I'm new to planting, but I want your guys opinion on my theory. For the coco fruits, thanlan gives you a mandrake seed if you fail to get a Sylkies Bud, while Shroud doesn't give you any seeds if you fail, but if you succeed you get 9 Sylkies Bud seeds.

Also does using shroud soil work on the Almond side of the cross? For me than has been pretty unreliable, only 3/7 has crossed.

[Duuude007]

I just like to share this with you guys. I mentioned earlier that glazenuts has the best chance to yield thav onions. I was wrong because this never happened to me before when I was still using glazenuts

I've done the same setup before but only got 1 thav seed from curiel. 1/8 for the plot... yeah. lol

That said, my stash of glazenut seeds is low, i'll be going back to jute soon.

[Isus]

You probably planted the Jute while there were still other plants up. Crossbreed results are determined at the time of planting which is why generally you will want to wait for the entire plot to be empty to make sure you can completely control the potential results. Plant things in a clockwise or counterclockwise manner and remember that when you plant a seed it needs to be next to something the moment you plant it in order for it to have a chance at breeding.

Actually, in my post, I did state that I planted the Jute next to Mandrake seeds....but thanks for taking the time to respond. I've replanted the Jute loop listed here and will post my results once everything grows.

[Isus]

I've finally got enough Thav onion seeds to start planting. Any recommendations on what to pair it with and soil type? I know there's no loop for it currently.

since they are not affected by the soils, that i can tell, I use grade one any soil I have in the FC chest....esp if I'm planting a full bed of them...

[HEC-]

Has anyone gotten 9 mandrake seeds from a Almond/Krakka (or cocofruit) cross using shroud soil? I haven't seen anyone post pictures of them doing so.

Yes - it's well known fact metioned and documented by pictures several times in this very thread. Shroud soil have about 10(-ish)% of crossbreed in avarage (and I run lot of gardens with it to reach that) and gives always 9 seeds if succesfull bread happens. In effect - for plants with large yield it's better to use Shroud soil as you'll end up with more or less same amount of seeds and also double the yield of the actual plants (mailnly choco food and colouring fruits). This is very usefull for example when you aim for Sylkis Bud seeds in Almond & Krakka Root cross loops. I've got over 200 Sylkis bud seeds just in a couple of weeks.

[synesthetic]

Actually, in my post, I did state that I planted the Jute next to Mandrake seeds....but thanks for taking the time to respond. I've replanted the Jute loop listed here and will post my results once everything grows.

Ok, I went back and looked - looks like I got Jute from the Mandrakes, but Broombush seeds from the Jute.

Technically, you planted the Mandrakes by the Jute, and previously you planted the Jute by something else (I'm guessing something like almonds).

What Estellios was trying to get at was that crossbreeding results are determined at the time of planting. As in.. let's say you have a Nymeia Lily, a Mandrake, and Jute.
lily + mandrake = mandragora queen minion
mandrake + jute = jute
And you plant them from left-to-right in that order. Lily - Mandrake - Jute
The Lily was by nothing when you stuck that seed in the ground. It will have zero chance of crossbreeding with anything.
The Mandrake had a Lily to its left and nothing to its right when you stuck it in the ground. It will have a chance of crossbreeding with the Lily to give you a minion. It will not cross with the Jute you planted later.
The Jute was by the Mandrake when you stuck it in the ground. So it will have a chance of crossbreeding with the Mandrake to give you more Jute.

So as you said earlier, you got Broombush from your Jute, and Jute from your Mandrakes.
Meaning, you planted your Mandrakes by your Jute, and you originally had your Jute planted by something else.


Also, I recommend planting single-yield crops (Jute, Glazenuts, Broombush, Thav.Onions) using Grade 3 Thanalan Topsoil. You can't increase their yield, but you can increase their chance of crossbreeding.

[Isus]

No, this was my second round of Jute so the Mandrakes were in place when I planted the Jute...then the Mandrakes were replaced - using grade 3 Than soil on all of it...either way it doesn't really matter - just trying again to see if I get luckier. I've been my FC gardener for quite some time..was just looking to see if there were other crosses we weren't aware of.

Thanks anyway tho.

[chrillix]

Just a quick question from a noob gardener. If I have A > B for cross seed C, is it only harvesting the A's that will give me a chance at C while B's are stricly used to give me the cross results on the A's?

*edit * and that's with A > B as the notation from the gardening site.