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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunahLeih View Post
    Nerfs happens for two reasons nowadays :
    - Lack of players to actually do the content (which is not the problem on FFXIV really)
    - Lazyness of the mass not whiling to put some effort into doing things.

    And still it's just a freakin excuse to actually get past some content people dont wanna lose time on.
    People just gonna get throught lightning fast, and then complain they get bored cause of the weekly lockout/unique drop.
    The more easy you can clear stuff/gear, the more people are gonna go for it, as simple as that, most of them dont even care about playing with 'old players' anyway.
    Exactly, this is entirely an instant gratification thing and nothing else. I personally enjoy that I still have things I can work toward. I would be disappointed if I had completed everything at this point and just waited for resets or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Exactly, this is entirely an instant gratification thing and nothing else. I personally enjoy that I still have things I can work toward. I would be disappointed if I had completed everything at this point and just waited for resets or whatever.
    lol, that's not what you used to say:
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Just going to keep it short and simple... the grind for the new relic/zodiac/whateveryouwanttocallit is so painfully stupid that it makes me want to quit. If something isn't done about this I doubt I'll be sticking around. Who honestly thought this was a good idea?
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Just dropping in to say that I totally and wholeheartedly agree with your entire post. This patch was a major disappointment and everything that was added seems to require such a ridiculous grind that I find myself also saying "Why bother?" I never thought I'd feel this way about this game but if this is what the future looks like I doubt I'll be sticking around. I play for fun, not to grind away like it's another job.
    So when it was new and you needed to do it, it had to be fixed but now that it's old and you're done it's totally fine!



    I'd also like to know how all those people against easing up on atma feel about hunt, because hunt gives higher ilvl also for "using one finger and no brain"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    lol, that's not what you used to say:




    So when it was new and you needed to do it, it had to be fixed but now that it's old and you're done it's totally fine!



    I'd also like to know how all those people against easing up on atma feel about hunt, because hunt gives higher ilvl also for "using one finger and no brain"
    Hey, what are you talking about, bro? Hunts are hard >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    Hey, what are you talking about, bro? Hunts are hard >.>
    My last hunt I swapped to whm and spammed medica II. Walked away with max seals for the very first time since hunts released, and the party was short 1 person. It was amazing. I honestly hadn't believed the reports, because I still had faith that maybe SE had half a design clue. Hunts aren't in any way, shape, or form a challenge.

    And I still hate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    lol, that's not what you used to say:
    snippity
    This gave me a genuine chuckle. I KNEW there were people out there who did this. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a LOT of commenters saying atma is fine and people need to stop whining have some comments like this buried in the forums.

    Gold, absolute gold lol!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    lol, that's not what you used to say:
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    Why people wanna always everything in 2 minutes ... that's a shame in
    new gamer's spirit ... it's a RPG not a FPS !

    Honestly, i have used the time to farm all atma (i have done all weapons)
    to raise the level of my chocobo from 2 to almost 10. I've finish to farm
    them they are a long time (before novus).

    I have made a choice between primal extreme (leviathan ex was the one)
    and drop weapons and relics. I think now i have made the good choice.

    When i have finished relics, i see PF allowing only 'Link loot'.

    So if player wanna continue to be so self fish ... so be it

    BUT PLEASE SQUARE ENIX .... Add more difficulty to obtain relics upgraded
    as i see them as somekind of Final Weapons.

    Currently, i'm upgrading all atma to animus ... it's fun and allow me to
    re/discover all jobs in a lot of contents :-)

    And yes, i'm ready to spend time to get relics of newcoming jobs ... it's pretty
    fast to get it when i compare with the time needed in FFXI when cap was at 75.
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    Last edited by Cassiope; 10-01-2014 at 05:04 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassiope View Post
    Why people wanna always everything in 2 minutes ...
    Funny thing is, depending on the persons luck, the Atma weapon can be acquired within 30 minutes. That's the fun thing about RNG. People do not want to get the Atma ASAP (though again, depending on the persons luck, they may feel entitled to deserve an Atma after doing over 100-500 level 3-20 FATE's in a single zone), they just want it to be progression, like every other step in the Zodiac quest line. Also, you can buy Alexandrites with Allied Seals and somewhat buy them with Myth (buy the maps), yet can not do this with Atma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassiope View Post
    Why people wanna always everything in 2 minutes ... that's a shame in
    new gamer's spirit ... it's a RPG not a FPS !
    You really should not post things with outrageous exaggeration to try and make some semblance of a point. No one has ever asked to have everything in 2 minutes. It just makes you look like a fool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Everyone is so certain that ninja's relic will be the same Atma path. Wouldn't it be epic if they changed it to be something completely different?
    It is because we have been told that in order to get the Ninja relic to farm the atma now (this was a couple months back) so unless they do a surprise revision in the next month or were flat out lying to the player-base, in every likely-hood Ninja will use the atma path.
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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    lol, that's not what you used to say
    I'm glad you decided to go digging through my post history to pull up something from half a year ago that is essentially no longer relevant to my current opinion, just to attempt to vilify me. On top of that, I clearly recall being very upset that day (I have a lot of real life issues, serious ones) and in that case, I had let my emotions get the better of me before I had even given it much of a chance. My outlook on the Zodiac quests was based mostly on what I had been told by other people, and not based on my own experiences. But I guess here on the internet people are never allowed to have a change of heart and everyone should be held accountable for everything they've ever said or thought ever.

    This was just another attempt at an ad hominem argument instead of addressing any of the points that I had made in my posts in this thread. You just blatantly and outright attacked my characteristics and authority without getting to the substance of any of the points that I had made.

    I would have responded to this sooner but the 24-hour post limit had kept me from doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    So when it was new and you needed to do it, it had to be fixed but now that it's old and you're done it's totally fine!
    Except I'm not done, because I want Atma and higher for every job. I have Paladin at Novus, and I just finished gathering a set of 12 Atma for Ninja the other day. Yesterday I started gathering a new set for a job I haven't decided to use it on. I have 1/12 of the new set, so I still have a lot of work to do. It has nothing to do with me "not needing it" and to assume that is ridiculous.
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    Last edited by Amused; 10-01-2014 at 08:53 PM.

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