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  1. #1031
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    So, two members of my FC wanted to run dungeons last night for myth and party leader decided on setting Brayflox. They haven't done it before - I did it once, completed and never went back - but ages ago. Needless to say, I didn't remember much of anything for that dungeon (except avoidance). Luckily the pugged BLM did.

    We're doing pretty 'okay' for the majority of it but come to the last boss...... wipe after wipe after wipe after.... mainly via bomb range after knock back (not far enough) after Holying/AoEs.

    At one point, we get the bugger down to maybe 5% hp. It came to a point where I was about to die - cast cure 2. Realized I was still targeted on the tank. Shit. Click bombed the ground to detarget in a panic (had maybe 15hp) and slapped Benediction. Tank still ate it. Died to snipers. We wipe.

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

    End of story - the BLM left (I don't blame them), new BLM came in and we sorta semi-insta-cleared o_O Maybe it was luck, maybe it was just a group jive thing...
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  2. #1032
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JaydeDancer View Post
    Mine involves a MNK in Copperbell who decided that she was going to fight all the shit that the tank hadn't targeted. The tank (a PLD) would get hate on one mob and then before he could gather hate on the other two (or three) the MNK would appear and would start pounding on the extra mobs. I finally decided that Selene could heal her and if she died, too bad.

    I asked her to stick to fighting the same mob as the tank because she wasn't equipped to fight the one mob on her own. I was told "Don't you DARE defend his inability to use flash". And then she proceeded to rant while I tried to explain that fighting a different mob and pulling hate helps no one. (Keep in mind though, I have never played a PLD, so I have no idea what they are supposed to do or when, or what flash looks like, or when they get it.) We ended up finishing the instance, but the whole thing was kind of annoying.

    Selene was on the ball that day though, because the MNK never died. So...happy ending I guess.
    I had one like this once, though it was a DRG facepulling and not ripping aggro off the tank. I asked them nicely a few times to let the tank do his job (how's he gonna learn otherwise??) and they refused, saying he was too slow. I shrugged inwardly, put Eos away, and just didn't DPS *or* heal the Dragoon anymore. He got into a pull with 4-5 mobs in it and went down like a ton of bricks. And then he got so mad. :3
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  3. #1033
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Brayflox + (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
    Adding to this boss fail...
    We were doing better - Got bombs out to the rim faster - but with a very small window between blast radiuses. Due to that, I was doing about 2 Holys + multi raising + Cure IIs, etc per bomb throw. At one point, I Holy'd once to rush them out - and then no MP. Only thing I could do was run up to one & rightclick to try to thwack it :| (couldn't even Stone). Inevitable death.

    After first BLM left and the new one came in, we did... pretty well o_O I can't say the tactics changed at all, so, no idea. We survived without too much trouble but wiped once... got through all the bomb stages and then.. one big super bomb popped out. "da fack? o_o" Didn't remember a thing about this megabomb when I first saw it - after death I remembered it was a "KILL BOSS BEFORE BOOM".
    Next round we finally killed it pretty fast - no fuss, no muss, no mega bomb dropped. You'd never think we had been having trouble >_>;
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  4. #1034
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    Saseal Korei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    He got into a pull with 4-5 mobs in it and went down like a ton of bricks. And then he got so mad. :3
    Will pay 1k gil to see this :3
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  5. #1035
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    alilacia's Avatar
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    Faerthoniel Daltern
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    Louisoix
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I can see that all being viable, but this WHM was only casting StoneSkin. She never healed or DPSed. It was frustrating. Never once did she throw out a Cure. Instead she settled with StoneSkin and expected me to heal. SS everyone, all the time, because of the AoEs. Ugh.
    Okay, yeah, in that instance I understand your frustration. That sucks.
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  6. #1036
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
    World
    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Story Roulette - Praetorium - fully half new people. 3 of them were pretty good. The fourth was an archer .. not a bard .. with a level 37 bow. Since there was no way they were going to get aggro they did ok until the final string of fights with all the aoe's. Then they died over and over and over. >_< One hit ko's.
    I was trying to explain at the end how to pick up bard but they left too quick.
    Not really a horror story .. just a single problem child. Everyone was good about waiting for the new people to finish all the cutscenes though.
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  7. #1037
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    I'taru Karin
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    I'm pretty new to healing (Tanking is mah drug yo), but I'm currently enjoying the white mage quite a lot... Well, apart for the last three days, since I unlocked Brayflox. It really seems to be the first test of a team ability, and let's just say that it's.... Especially obvious on tanks.

    Honestly, over three days, I must have finished it twice in ten runs in PUG, with several wipes before even GETTING to the dragon. The sheer amount of paladins who STILL DON'T KNOW about flash at this time of the game is astonishing. They don't even try. When I first began playing, I knew all about tanking mechanics before even entering Sastasha because I informed myself in order not to be a weak link. And being a full time tank, I never noticed the performance of others. But UGH.


    Anyway, it's always the same story. First mob pull, I let off 1 Cure as late as possible (Which isn't very long, these tanks being kind of... Squishy.). I immediately pull aggro on everything but the mob the tank targets. No biggie, I tell him to use flash, pretty please. 90% of the time, I don't get an answer, or more amusingly, the tank spams flash out of mob range as if he never used it before. That's usually the time I facepalm.

    First boss is invariably a pain, with me running around keeping everyone up, and the tank not using flash at all again, but focusing on the boss and only the boss. It's usually the time where I decide to use one of the DPS as a tank of fortune and to give up on the main tank, if he's not listening.

    Some times, we'll get to the last boss, and rage overflows. I get that you may not be able to put up with the aggro mechanism of the game, but if you're still unable to dodge a simple line aoe halfway to lvl 50.... URGH.

    [/rant]

    All in all, I now understand the spite that some healers had for tanks. But we're not all bad ! But I'm glad to be done with Brayflox.
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    Last edited by ItaruKarin; 09-29-2014 at 04:55 PM.

  8. #1038
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Don't think I've shared this beauty on here yet.

    I sign up for expert roulette and check in progress for the hope of helping a stranded party. Needless to say in progress pops and I join, was a full group and when I loaded in they were still fighting and the bard was tanking. This should if been my first warning bell.

    With each pull the tank didn't use lob, flash or scorn at all, just the basic enmity combo on a single monster and never provoked monsters we easily ripped off him. The bard basically tanked 90% of the adds and I had my leg humped by a monkey for 5 mins straight.

    Cont next post no edit on phone.
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  9. #1039
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
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    We get to the first boss and the tank stands for about 3 mins then puts sword oath on...yes you heard that, sword oath. I beg in chat for him to change it but to no avail.

    Needless to say adds hump my leg or the bards leg through the whole fight then at about 50% hp I pull from the "tank" and get btch slapped to death by the silverback gorilla (it's not a Sasquatch SE!!!!!).

    Tank was kicked shortly after the wipe. I looked at the tanks eq and he was in str jewellery (white rings) and some coil gear. How? We will never know. Oh and I do have a record of this if you're interested, thanks to the amazing drg and brd that stuck it out to the end
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  10. #1040
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    Derek Hale
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ItaruKarin View Post
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    the JOY of brayflox storymode.
    so many ragequits after so many wipe at the first boss.
    so many tank bot.
    so much pain.

    you should try it with the scholar, too, it's even worse D:
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