I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

[Zoltan]

I believe the original poster is in the "for" camp on both of those issues, if I'm not mistaken....

Okay. I agree with the original poster *who* voted no.

[Abithra]

I think I would prefer PvP to be restricted purely to a battle arena. Give it some spectacle then just fighting in the open world.

Plus doing battle arena style they could create a whole tournament system as such and make something out of it with rewards based on different rank fights etc, etc. (not a great explanation I know :3).

Make it different is all im thinking.

EDIT: But really not bothered about jumping at all just rather they didn't force PvP on people is where I stand

[JasonMarkle]

My opinion on jumping is that it should be a controlled action. Let's just use ffxiii jumping for a recent example. When you came up onto a point that you had to jump it would automatically perform the action for you, and they actually looked really cool being either outrageously high jumps, or outrageously long...kind of like a super hero-esq feeling. I would see that as the most valid use of a jump in XIV since the game mechanics in place currently don't really allow for jump in any kind of tactical use. I think the same could be applied to other areas like swimming under something to reach the next part of a map and such.

SO basically, this would be in your command menu when a valid location to jump or swim is appropriate...much like when you have to use the menu action to open a door. And they should be a bit un-realistic like in XIII...after all it's a game, we play it because it gets away from the true reality of life.

As for PvP, I'm all for it being in a controlled environment. What I would hate to see is the uncontrolled environment of the highest rank players are awarded by being able to just go out and gank whoever is weaker than they are because they're R50 pwning people on lower rank classes or people gathering or crafting at camps. For what XIV is it's just not valuable to us in that manner, and even for those who say they wouldn't do that, there's an equal amount of people who would lie and say they won't do it or they just wouldn't care and do it anyways.

However, if use a controlled environment like the GLD guild arena to do one on one or 4 on 4 or 8 on 8 etc. it could really be a lot of fun. Not only do we get the PvP but they can set up a system of team and individual rankings and other ideas that people can come up with.

That's my two cents on it and I hope to hear what you all think about those points.

First and foremost before we would get either of those, I would love more actual content and polish in the game so I have something to do on my R50 class.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

actually tanaka said their would be rival pvp. the in game guilds rival each other. Like the pirate guild and the musketeer guild rivial each other. And so forth.

jump adds content why wouldn't you want it? with jump they can add so much more to the game. oh wait.... you guys hate jump cuz it looks silly. so where can this large pile of content thanks to jump go? Oh WoW can have it cuz they got jump.

jump adds

dynamic battling
dynamic dungeon and open world exploration
ability to find hidden locations
add events that jump is involed in.

Just to same some content.

[Cairdeas]

I definitely do not want to see Jump added if it effects combat. If it is present in combat it should be an ability that Lancer gains, not something bound to your space bar.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

auto jump sucks sorry. anyone who mentions auto jump really needs to go soak their head and reply those games. It is not fun getting stuck in an auto jump loop between platforms It sucks being in an open world we can't fully explore due to limited actions. They should made ffxiv just like ffxiii very linear pathing so there is no point or need to explore.
One of my fav thing to do in large scale open world rpg is to explore. Swim in lakes, climb/jump around different places and building to find hidden things. feel like i'm actually in the world and take on a back seat ride in it.

Not jumping or swimming limits immersion as it limits our interaction with the enviroment. Stop with your pethetic crying over vanity or what other ppl do. its a video game. Even with auto jump ppl gonna go to those places and jump around and your gonna still be annoying.

This games needs conntent, any type of content EVERY type of content to get ppl to play. Tons of ppl quit or didn't play because of jump not in game.

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[Kilta_Firelotus]

I definitely do not want to see Jump added if it effects combat. If it is present in combat it should be an ability that Lancer gains, not something bound to your space bar.

play elder scrolls, it adds a bit of fun to combat

anyone against jump or swiming is against fun.

Just quit ffxiv then since you want such limited fun. This game will die from lack of fun and the fun haters will be to blame.

[Laughlyn]

lol jump is hardly this game's problem, and nor was it in the other FF games offline/online either.
The problem is trying to meet the costumers demand.

Obviously it looks like this whole "Forum" intel gathering wasnt such a great idea afterall, why?
Most obvious reason's are us the players...we dont even get along withouth one and another.

[Smashington]

"Immature" in the thread title,
Giant red text in the OP.
Thread is about jumping and PvP, topics that have their own threads.

I am baffled at the amount of interest in these topics which seem to be of very little importance to the future success of FFXIV.

[Smashington]

play elder scrolls, it adds a bit of fun to combat

anyone against jump or swiming is against fun.

Just quit ffxiv then since you want such limited fun. This game will die from lack of fun and the fun haters will be to blame.

It's funny that when you put it this way I see your point. You are saying that jump/swim = fun?

Boiled down to this basic perspective I would have to agree.