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    If they don't meet the ilvl requirements then they can do the hard mode dungeons to gather gear. If ya don't wanna do dungeons, then you're stuck with hunts and FATE's. It's also not stopping them from putting forth an effort to look for statics, either. Even if you're already in a FC, you can still look for a static. We have one dude who is already in a FC, yet runs with us as part of our Coils static. Yeah, RNG sucks, but how else do you expect your Atma to be given to you? Some people get their Atma quick, other's don't. I guess I'm just tired of hearing people basically scream along the lines of, "This should practically be given to me." because that's what this whole thread wreaks of, imo. If you want something, you work for it. My husband's pally is ilvl 103 and he doesn't even have pieces from Coils yet. Out of the whole zodiac quest line, Atma is the easiest. You still have to grab eight tomes, Animus, and then Novus.

    Edit: Spelling errors cause I type too fast like a derp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyhmrae View Post
    I guess I'm just tired of hearing people basically scream along the lines of, "This should practically be given to me." because that's what this whole thread wreaks of, imo. If you want something, you work for it.
    Again, I ask... why shouldn't Atma be practically given away? It has no benefits whatsoever. It's basically just an ilvl increase, which is worthless. So you literally spend 3 weeks or more grinding away the same boring content just to progress to another grind, and then only when THAT grind is completed can you get your ilvl 110 to match existing soldiery weapons.

    Alternatively, I could spend those three weeks getting Soldiery tomes and pick up Yagrush... oh wait, I did. And it felt a LOT more rewarding than the grinding I'm doing on my Paladin trying to achieve the same goal with these awful zodiac trials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Alternatively, I could spend those three weeks getting Soldiery tomes and pick up Yagrush... oh wait, I did. And it felt a LOT more rewarding than the grinding I'm doing on my Paladin trying to achieve the same goal with these awful zodiac trials.
    ^ Then why is it even an issue for you? Not even a week after the Zodiac quest line dropped, a *lot* of people already had their Animus. Progress has to be gated. A big issue for 2.1 was that users only logged in on Tuesdays to run Coils. A carrot has to be dangled in front of the players to keep them going, it's the nature of MMO's. SE has a reason for that type of carrot. Take World of Warcraft with their legendary cloaks. The cloak was still a grind, but a lot of people were able to obtain it quick. I'm sorry, if something is going to be labeled as "legendary", I better not see a lot of people running around with said item not long after it's been implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyhmrae View Post
    but how else do you expect your Atma to be given to you?
    If you read some of my previous posts (which was repeating something someone else said in this thread), you'd see that there's a way to make the Atma grind both RNG + progress. Every time don't get an Atma from a (completed) FATE, the drop rate % goes up by 1%. Say the Atma's current drop rate is 1%. Now imagine it going up by 1% every time you don't get it (resetting back to 1% any time you change zones and/or get an Atma). There's a chance you'll get it before FATE 99, but in case you're one of the very unlucky few in the world, at least you know the 99th FATE is a guaranteed 100% drop.

    Atma is the hardest (for some) due to the RNG. Nexus is the easiest as you apparently just spam Cape Westwind or Moggle Mog HM over and over again (once again taking away the feeling of accomplishment and replacing it with "glad that's finally over with", which is unfortunate as the original Relic quest was actually fun... when the content was actually hard).
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